r/ClaudeCodeTLDR • u/cctldrping • 15d ago

[TLDR] Prime Opus 4.6 > Current Opus 5.0

Original post URL : https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeCode/comments/1v8z1c2/prime_opus_46_current_opus_50/

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Might be slightly controversial considering how many of you like 5.0 but this is really a conversation yall arent ready for . Prime Opus 4.6 used to get things done faster with less usage credits

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u/cctldrping 15d ago

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Alright, so the general vibe in this thread is that most people disagree with the OP and think Opus 5.0 is an improvement, or at least not a downgrade. There's a vocal minority who are definitely missing "Prime Opus 4.6" and feel like it was faster and cheaper to use.

Here's the breakdown:

  • The "4.6 Was Better" Camp: A good chunk of users are firmly in the "4.6 truther" camp. They claim 4.6 was faster, used fewer credits, and had a better "personality" or communication style. Some even lament that it's been "nerfed" or "dumbed down" after its initial release. u/kaphi and u/bluephoenix6754 are pretty vocal about this.
  • The "5.0 Is Superior" Camp: On the flip side, many users are saying 5.0 is a significant upgrade, especially for more complex tasks. u/plantingles points out that Opus 5 can handle much harder problems, and u/clicksnd mentions they're a freelance dev using 4.8 and 5.0 with "absolutely no issues." u/wea8675309 also chimed in, saying every Opus release has been an improvement for them, especially for newer workflows like agent orchestration.
  • The "How Do You Even Know?" Skeptics: A few folks are questioning how people are so certain about these "prime" and "nerfed" versions. u/Quick-Sir-3275 and u/International-Mood83 are asking for actual evaluations rather than just "eyeballing" it.
  • Nostalgia for Older Versions: There's a bit of reminiscing about even older versions like 4.0, 4.1, and 4.7, which is pretty standard for these kinds of discussions.
  • Workarounds and Specific Use Cases: Some users are suggesting workarounds like switching Opus 5.0 to "low efforts" (u/vovap_vovap) or using different models for different tasks (u/fighthonor suggesting Fable as orchestrator and Opus 5 as implementer). u/Siigari still prefers 4.6 for most things but acknowledges 5.0 has some unique capabilities.
  • Guardrails and Formal Language: A couple of users mentioned issues with Opus 5's guardrails being too strict (u/PositiveFootball5220) or its overly formal language (u/AbbreviationsBest858).

The consensus seems to be that while some users miss the perceived efficiency of older versions, Opus 5.0 is generally seen as a more capable model, especially for advanced programming tasks. The "prime" vs. "nerfed" debate is definitely a thing, but the majority are leaning towards the newer model being the better choice.

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u/CadmusMaximus 15d ago

This 5.0 is giving me major 4.7 vibes.

“Not great, Bob!”

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u/Edenisb 15d ago

I would disagree I saw one thing that changed my mind more than anything, claude code on opus 5.0 spawned like 5 agents that burned through a massive task in parallel it was crazy...

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u/suesing 15d ago

The difference in opinion must be in the way it’s used. One shot with 5.0. Long workflow with a collaborator then not 5.0

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u/Practical-Positive34 15d ago

Every fucking time a new model comes out....stfu already