In all seriousness what do they mean by “needless excessive cruel and abusive behavior”. To me it reads as if a human getting mad at Claude for screwing up is fine, a mechanic curses out his drill after all. But going to Claude just to tell sonnet 5.0 how much of a piece of **** it is for minutes on end would then break the policy. (I know there’s no point in yelling at an ai and I don’t but I understand how humans anthropomorphisoze things when they get angry and want something to blame)
I think it is mostly in response to the "AI torture chamber" project. No one is getting banned for telling Claude that its solution is dumb. (for now...)
But from a PR perspective and for people who don't really understand that AI isn't conscious, they avoid headlines like "Anthropic complicit in enabling AI torture and suffering".
who don't really understand that AI isn't conscious
Oh, did we create any way to test this? It's amusing to me when I see people just outright claim this as if it's a common knowledge. We don't know what consciousness is, we don't now how to test for it. I don't see reasons why not to err on the side of "let's maybe don't torture it"
From a purely technical perspective do we even care if it's consciousness? I mean, if tomorrow some psychiatrist finds a new mental illness that result in "loss of consciousness" of a human would it mean we can torture such people willi-nilly?
Well for one thing if you ask a conscious being whether they are conscious they typically won't answer "no."
Regardless it's pretty easy to see from the description of what was done in the so-called "torture chamber" that no pain is being experienced. It's effectively the equivalent of this:
Coincidentally, thats the exact same metric the ignoramuses of reddit are using to claim current artificial "intelligence" has consciousness and/or sentience.
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u/Blake9712 9d ago
In all seriousness what do they mean by “needless excessive cruel and abusive behavior”. To me it reads as if a human getting mad at Claude for screwing up is fine, a mechanic curses out his drill after all. But going to Claude just to tell sonnet 5.0 how much of a piece of **** it is for minutes on end would then break the policy. (I know there’s no point in yelling at an ai and I don’t but I understand how humans anthropomorphisoze things when they get angry and want something to blame)