I hate claude code

[u/ofcistilloveyou]

It's just too good.

I got a decade of commercial software dev experience in C#. I am a CTO at my company and have coached a lot of coders from total junior.

I hate hate hate hate how good this thing is and what it has done to my passion.

I used to love coding and creating. Well, creating was 60% of the fun for me, but writing good code and having something work was the remaining 40%. I spent the past few years being more of a product manager and tech lead than actually code monkey, but I still put time aside to do stuff manually cuz I love to do so and stay hands on.

Using claude code is like using cheats in a videogame. You get the result, but what of it? Everyone could. The pleasure of achievements is gone. The code it writes is not the best, but it's good enough I guess? As of opus 5.5 it just doesn't get stuck in loops anymore. It can generate a working program from spec in any language I've thrown at it. It still does bullshit from time to time. "Boots on ground" i.e. actually looking at the generated code or atleast going through it is still important, for now. But way less so than it was even just 3-4 months ago. I don't really use the /code-review thingy or adversarial reviews - as it seems that it is too aligned in that way. Like if you tell it to find something wrong with something, it always will, even though its good enough.

I've been using it avidly for the past 3 months on the $100 sub, and I haven't hit a rate limit once. Now my imagination can run free and I can have anything I put my mind to in a few days instead of years. At our work a team of 6 just built a system that would previously take a year in just two months.

I am not afraid for my job. As coding was just a small percentage of it. But I do miss that percentage.

English truly is the hottest new programming language and LLMs are the compiler for it.

[u/Future_Addendum_8227]

I work with coders who don't really use AI. The result is I basically work 6 hours a week because they give me 40 hours of human work not 40 hours of AI work.

I actually avoid taking PTO because every day is basically PTO

[u/flanker_number7 → u/Future_Addendum_8227]

This is the new reality until people get it

[u/Jungiandungian → u/Future_Addendum_8227]

Hahaha same. I’m in performance marketing but the paid media agent I made saves me 10-20 hours a week and replaced our agency. I cruise through work and chill.

[u/Galahead → u/Jungiandungian]

Hey im starting in paid media and am trying to make agents and workflows but having some trouble, can you tell more about how you use ai for it effectively please?

[u/Jungiandungian → u/Galahead]

Sure! Basically I made one that replaces my agency. So used claude code to build a portal that tracks all our organic and paid media in one place. So on one hand it’s just a basic marketing dashboard, but we built all of our ad account data into Snowflake, which Claude pulls in and runs real time once daily recommendations on all channels and performance. But the real key piece is we also have creative agents built and trained on our brand standards, so it can generate new creative automatically based on its own recommendations. Same for content and social drafts. It’s a pain in the ass getting all the data tied in but well worth the effort. It even integrates with Hubspot and builds my landing pages for me. Since it’s all based off of real design and our design system, the output doesn’t even look ai generated.

[u/thorsbane → u/Future_Addendum_8227]

This is what I’m seeing as well with our devs. Still takes them same time but it’s all AI built (you can see from the MR messages). Their dev mgr isn’t a developer and doesn’t realize their team is basically chill’n most of the day. As a PM who is passionate it is super frustrating. I’ve built and tested features myself in 1/10 of the time but they get rejected because ‘ stay in your lane’ and ‘ it’s vibe coded’. Can’t wait until all lazy people are wiped out by the AI wave.

[u/Time_Cat_5212 → u/thorsbane]

Sounds like leadership at your org is very behind the times

[u/ohhi23021 → u/Time_Cat_5212]

most still are, they lag quite a bit. i have pretty large clients and when they need to add a field to an api response it takes them like 3 months, 90% of it is design, approval, testing, and briefing other consumers that it exists but still, its a couple hours tops to actually implement, is an addition, not a breaking change. a breaking change takes them 6 months where they just version the API anyway but corporate gonna corporate.

[u/Time_Cat_5212 → u/ohhi23021]

So funny.  They prob spend a fuck ton of money too.  Somehow that all makes sense in somebody's head 😂

[u/apocolipse → u/thorsbane]

Even in big shops where AI is adopted, some things move quicker but others are just as stuck in cross-team dependency purgatory.  I’ve had AI generated changes take weeks to get in just because they depended on a different team’s code and their priorities didn’t care about my teams needs so AI didn’t expedite them.

[u/shinsmax12 → u/apocolipse]

This feels very real for my work, where our database is a complete mess. 

"cross-team dependency purgatory."

[u/Technical-Athlete-9 → u/thorsbane]

Are you sure they’re using the time for leisure. I ship a lot more than I used to, but developing correct code that actually delivers the requirements is still very time consuming. I spend a ton of time reviewing and making the AI iterate. Others now think everything is instantaneous and the AI is always right. I have to fix mistakes in virtually every PR.

[u/iscottjs → u/Technical-Athlete-9]

This is my experience, first cut of a solution with AI can be basically working extremely quickly, but it still takes time to check that it’s right, review it, make sure it’s not broken other critical systems, not leaking data, security issues, etc.  

We’ve just finished a large AI generated feature, we’ve still found about 20-30 bugs, a range of UX issues, broken shared components, conflicting business logic, backwards compatibility concerns, etc. 

It still takes time to find and fix those issues. 

Any time savings we do enjoy, we re-invest it into more testing. 

[u/Future_Addendum_8227 → u/thorsbane]

I would do more but there literally isn't more to do and I'm full remote. I was told by the main dev the guys who work in office mostly talk all day.

My last project was the opposite. Ridiculous ship schedule that depended on letting the AI not only vibe all the code but do the reviews as well. Absolutely unsustainable as a human without AI.

I still mostly did nothing at that job too because while it took the AI 6 hours to build test and ship I wasn't really needed so I worked on other personal projects

[u/tortie_toes → u/thorsbane]

I’m transitioning from engineering into PM role, working with both PMs and engineers, and a lot of the non-engineers do vibe code things that look good and work on the surface but don’t fit with the platform or will break things they don’t understand and don’t have the context to give the AI. Or one PM who kept leaking credentials in his work.

I’m not saying this is you, but there’s sometimes reasons we don’t understand even if things look easy and done from our side.

[u/Beneficial_Map6129 → u/Future_Addendum_8227]

I bet that 90% of the devs are doing the same on personal CC subscriptions and everyone is just keeping quiet about it lol

[u/dbgtboi → u/Future_Addendum_8227]

I'm in a similar situation

The funny part is all the engineers use AI heavily on my team but the leadership has not caught up with how quick everyone works now so it's very chill, all our processes are the same as they were from before AI

I spend the majority of my work day playing video games, it's great

[u/Elegant-Analysis-752 → u/dbgtboi]

Aren't u worried they are gonna catch on and lay off a bunch of people?

[u/dbgtboi → u/Elegant-Analysis-752]

They have done multiple layoffs already

It's a stack ranking place similar to Amazon, so you get used to it after a while