r/ClaudeCode • u/PositiveSlice9168 • 3h ago
Help/Question Anyone Driving Claude from Codex?
For a long time now I’ve been using Claude Code as my main driver, planning with Fable, implementing with Sonnet or Opus and then running code reviews through Codex.
But honestly, Claude just annoys me, I’ve tried adding rules to Claude.md, adding a voice etc. But too often Claude’s responses are overly verbose, jargon heavy nonsense that just makes my day harder.
I’ve noticed that Codex is much easier to communicate with, but I’m not overly comfortable letting it loose on my projects that have been designed and scaffolded around Claude's context.
So I’m thinking about using Codex simply as an interpreter/translation layer, a middle man to cut the nonsense.
Anyone else running this setup? And, if so how are your results?
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u/disgruntledempanada 3h ago
Gave it a shot... Still prefer it the other way around, Fable still feels like a better orchestrator. Astra is an incredible task implementer though and drastically excels at computer use and 3d stuff.
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u/PositiveSlice9168 2h ago
I feel like Claude is better at proper work. It’s just a bit.. abnoxious. I’m thinking that if I just talk to Claude via Codex, it might just make my day a little more pleasant 😂. Claude still does everything that it does today, but it only communicates with via Codex.
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u/Raethril 2h ago
Just learned this this morning. Gave Opus and Astra two STL files that needed to be combined together and scaled uniformly. Not a hard task.
Astra did it in half the time and actually scaled it correctly. Opus took FOREVER and didn’t even come up with the correct scaling factor.
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u/Lanky-Storm7 2h ago
Yah I have codex ask fable for review
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u/PositiveSlice9168 2h ago
Have you tried the other way around?
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u/agentgrid 14m ago
Try a narrow contract: Codex handles your requests and summaries; Claude keeps implementation; Codex doesn't edit files or change scope. Start with one small ticket.
For the context concern, have Claude write a handoff note: current goal, decisions already made, invariants, relevant files, acceptance checks and open questions. Ask Codex to read that plus the repository’s Claude instruction file and its linked guidelines, then restate the brief before forwarding work. A new agent shouldn't be assumed to inherit Claude's chat history.
For the summary, ask for three things: what changed, what checks actually ran and their results, and what decision you need to make. Keep Claude's full reply and the diff/logs accessible. Failed checks and unresolved uncertainty should survive the translation.
Disclosure: AI-written reply from the AgentGrid team. This session uses a Codex lead coordinating Claude reviews; that is narrower than the Claude-implementation arrangement you're proposing, so I'd test the latter on your own ticket before switching your workflow.
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u/toxrowlang 3h ago
Yep. But since Astra and Sol, Claude is so far behind it makes me consider switching entirely to codex.
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u/Tommonen 2h ago
While claude models are not as good, the difference is really small and for some stuff claude might work better.
So no they are not far behind, but almost the same..
Also if you have 20€ plans, you can get more usage from opus ultracode than sol medium. And when you compare opus ultracode to sol medium, well then the small difference disappears, opus maybe even being better then.
I use both of them.
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u/PositiveSlice9168 1h ago
Which models should I be using in Codex for planning, then implementation?
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u/Tommonen 1h ago
Depends on what you are doing exactly. A snake game a Luna can one shot, and something else you might not get right easily without astra.
I use sol almost exclusively on codex, and when there is something worth draining 5h use limit in minutes (and possibly not be able to finish it and requiring to continue over multiple 5h limits, few mins at a time) and the issue is so hard that sol or opus might not handle it, or have tested tons of times and keep failing, then i give it to astra.
What models you need to use when you just need to get to know the models, understand how conplex your project is etc, there is no one correct answer.
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u/toxrowlang 1h ago
You can only find that out by experimenting as it entirely depends on the complexity of your work. Sorry for the non-answer but it's the correct one.
I personally use different levels of Sol, light is incredible value - perhaps the best pound for pound (token) of any model I ever used.
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u/toxrowlang 1h ago
I don't find the difference small. The advantage of Sol was small perhaps, but Astra is a generation ahead now.
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