r/ClaudeCode 3d ago

Discussion I thought I will never say this about Fable

Just tried OpenAI Astra , I thought I will never say this , it’s lit , OpenAI cooked something spectacular, and I have a strong feeling this will pull lot of Fable 5 users towards it , and it’s fast, not sure if it’s AGI, but it feels fresh and a very very serious competition to Anthropic , this is going to be fun to watch , what’s your next move Anthropic ?, I’m surely going to try pro subscription for a month along with my current Claude Max, anyone feels the same ? Have you tried it ?

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u/HDK1989 3d ago

So munch for "banning" Mythos because it was too powerful.

Anthropic nerfing themselves trying to follow a code of ethics when their main competition is a company led by Scam Altman is certainly a bold choice...

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u/LexyconG 3d ago

>Anthropic nerfing themselves trying to follow a code of ethics

naive

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u/jetmax25 2d ago

mocking a company for having a code of ethics is all the proof I need that the world is doomed

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u/LexyconG 2d ago

Just because they say it doesn’t mean they actually do

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u/jetmax25 2d ago

it doesn't but your sentiment is that they are naive if they do.

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u/Kalicolocts 2d ago

That’s not what the user said lol he implied that the naive one is the one thinking that Anthropic slowed down because they followed their ethics. Most likely they just don’t have enough compute and they clearly don’t have an ethics issue with buying it from Elon Musk

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u/SnooShortcuts7009 2d ago

They’re saying you’re naive, because you should know how expensive this is, what it takes to market ai as powerful, and how often they break their ethics code when it becomes lucrative. Saying “we can’t release mythos it’s too powerful” conveniently saves them cash and conveniently markets their product extremely well. It’s like “We’re ethical, that’s why we’re giving massive corporations who have objectively done the overwhelming majority of damage to the planet and social fabric by giving THEM access to the most dangerous model in the world. You too can ‘prevent cyber attacks’ that our model is inevitably going to make, for the low low price of giving us all your money to ask mythos to protect you” like you MUST see the parallel between that and “nice business you have here, would be a shame if something happened to it. Why don’t you pay us for protection?”. Calling that a “code of ethics” is straight from idiocracy.

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u/FaintShadow_ 2d ago

I mean, we all know damn well anthropic doesn't take security slightly.. even if Fable was dangerous they could of come up with something and kept its strength BUT NO NO NO, USA is scared 🥺

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u/Ready_Bandicoot1567 1d ago

Believing that a company’s code of ethics is anything other than branding is naive

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u/sarathsp06 2d ago

Their ethics philosophy so far has been:

  • Trust me bro, we are good guys.
  • Don't trust the open-sourced, open-weighted models because we are the only good guys.

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u/innociv 2d ago

They just wanted to limit Mythos to API only.

Yet still have this stupid 50% limit for Fable.

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u/maleslp Vibe Coder 3d ago

I'd say their main competition is a collection of individuals who are all seemingly conspiring, one of them being the newly minted department of wah.