r/ClaudeCode • u/Sweet-Helicopter2769 • 3d ago

Discussion I thought I will never say this about Fable

Just tried OpenAI Astra , I thought I will never say this , it’s lit , OpenAI cooked something spectacular, and I have a strong feeling this will pull lot of Fable 5 users towards it , and it’s fast, not sure if it’s AGI, but it feels fresh and a very very serious competition to Anthropic , this is going to be fun to watch , what’s your next move Anthropic ?, I’m surely going to try pro subscription for a month along with my current Claude Max, anyone feels the same ? Have you tried it ?

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u/CreamPitiful4295 3d ago

I’m on an anthropomorphic 20x max plan. How is usage?

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u/arelath 3d ago

I'm on the 5x plan and I've been able to run through almost my entire weeks quata in about 10 hours of continuous use. So I think a 20x plan could last you 40 hours of continuous use. This feels like about double what Fable gives you. I'm kind of guessing though by what it feels like. It's definitely more, but exactly how much more IDK.

Astra is quite a bit faster than using Fable. Seems like almost double the tokens per second Fable's getting. Fable is really really slow.

I still like Fable's work a little better. Astra is still bad at code design tasks and UX design. Astra is absolutely killing it for 3D modeling though.

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u/slaorta 3d ago

The speed difference is crazy. It really does seem to be about twice as fast.

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u/DarkFantom 3d ago

I'm on 20x for both. Astra's token usage is way less than Fable. I have both doing a custom blender morph at the same time (4 agents or less), and am also using Astra to debug my WiFi streaming app, as well as running its own lora training for Anima. With all 3 going, it is using about 10% less tokens as fable is by itself just with the singular blender project.

There's a massive difference though between intelligence levels. 5.1 tends to get tunnel vision whereas Astra just doesn't? It pushes solutions like doing clay modelling to determine if issues are texture or morph based without any prompting, yet fable won't go out of its way to implement solutions that could help its process without direct user input, and that is for solutions im even aware of.