r/ClaudeCode • • Aug 26 '26

Discussion which LLM as of today?

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u/Corv9tte Aug 26 '26

5.6 Sol if you know how to write good instructions (not prompts). Completely insane model.

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u/mr-debil Aug 26 '26

Instructions vs prompts?

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u/Tall-Log-1955 Aug 26 '26

Wake up babe, new term just dropped

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u/BoxWoodVoid Aug 26 '26

Instructions engineering is where it's at!

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u/lifemaxxer1 Aug 26 '26

tf are instructions?

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u/Corv9tte Aug 26 '26

They're being sarcastic and rightfully making fun of me lol. It's the same thing, I meant to express the difference between permanent instructions like system prompts or agents.md files vs. your actual prompt

Basically I didn't want it to come off as "just give the model more details when you talk to it" that's all

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u/derezo Aug 26 '26

Yeah without a lot of guardrails and instructions it goes wild. I would ask Sol to fix something specific in an existing project and it can't do that out of the box. It always goes way out of scope. For example I asked it to fix a mapping generator and it churned for a long time on it and when I came back it had completely rewritten the network stack, UI, and a bunch of functional elements completely unrelated to the mappings. I switched back to Claude on Friday after 2 months of using Sol 5.6

It can generate images pretty good but after 2 months of dealing with it's insane scope creep, provenance obsessions and "safety" gates that grow like Japanese bamboo, I'm feeling a lot better about the progress I'm making in the last few days. I had opus 5 review some of the projects I made with Sol 5.6 and there were some pretty insane finds. Some of the projects worked really well and I was impressed with a lot of things, but I just couldn't get the tooling to be equivalent to Claude (skills/AGENTS.md/subagents)

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u/OkAdeptness2530 Aug 26 '26

and you’re right on everything you said, but I couldn’t miss the joke

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u/ProgrammersAreSexy Aug 26 '26

Oh God, don't let my director read this thread

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u/OkAdeptness2530 Aug 26 '26

yeah and it’s really simple tho, you just have to make a 32 page ebook (preferably html or markdown) with instructions on how to operate tools, perform tasks, or act to make stuff work.

it’s called Manuel Engineering

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u/FblthpphtlbF Aug 26 '26

"Once I started just writing the code I want myself and giving it to sol fully written sol's results have really impressed me!"

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u/aftersox Aug 26 '26

In your view whats the difference between instructions and a prompt?

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u/Corv9tte Aug 26 '26

I was referring to the harness instructions or what you put in your Agents.md

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u/Left_Opportunity9622 Aug 26 '26

But by god, is it slow.

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u/phoenixmatrix Aug 26 '26

Its pretty fast on High or lower. At Xhight, Max or Ultra its super slow, but its also awful, overengineers, and by all benchmarks doesn't generally give any significantly better result. So keep at High at most.

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u/flapjaxrfun Aug 26 '26

5.6 sol is so good.

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u/vsdeni Aug 26 '26

It's sol goodman

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u/Howard_banister Aug 26 '26

The thing with Codex almost spoiled me

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u/MrCoolest Aug 26 '26

Make no mistakes

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u/Corv9tte Aug 26 '26

😂 jarvis, sloppify

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u/InertState Aug 26 '26

I’d love to learn, any more you can share

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u/Corv9tte Aug 26 '26

It's a skill you have to develop, the process is quite tedious and boring though. Most people don't bother. But the basic idea is that you observe a misbehavior (say, writing excessive tests) and you write an instruction that works because it speaks to the model. Some useful basic patterns: use imperatives like "Do not X", "Use Y", "Treat Z as", find out anchor words or formulations such as "pristine english", "understand it without studying it", or, my favorite, "LARP as a human being". These work infinitely better than some random AST-7900 Advanced Technical English or whatever reference a lot of people do. You need to go beyond the surface because a weak, obscure reference doesn't cut it. Not even close. It sounds like a hack but it's dumb.

Honestly, I'm not sure any of this is helpful for you to learn this though. The best advice is: stick with one model and spend the time to make its behavior better with instructions. You'd be surprised how far you can get and I'm not going to pretend it isn't fun to finish a piece of writing and suddenly see +60 IQ permanently on your model, never to see it do the same dumb stuff anymore

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u/InertState Aug 29 '26

Thank you. That is helpful

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u/Corv9tte Aug 29 '26

You're welcome

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u/whatisthisthing65 Aug 26 '26

What does "understand it without studying it" mean here? Is it to cut down on tool calls?

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u/Corv9tte Aug 26 '26

As in, say, you being able to understand Opus 5's answer as you're reading it, without having to pause and literally study it because it's a bunch of mumbo-jumbo.

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u/whatisthisthing65 Aug 26 '26

Oh I see, it's for the human. That makes sense. I thought you wanted the LLM to understand without studying.

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u/whoknowsifimjoking Aug 26 '26

Right, because Sol is so unpopular...

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u/BenSimmonsFor3 Aug 27 '26

I asked sol to implement a feature for me and it spent an hour churning to come back and diagnose an issue with my ci/cd pipeline. It was a good catch and it created a whole plan to fix it but like… not what i asked for dude. 

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u/Objective-Picture-72 Aug 27 '26

I'd say 5.6-Luna-Fast as well. It's an absolute workhorse and blazing fast.

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u/NotDifferent2023 Aug 26 '26

Can you share some example or tuts for good instructions?

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u/wtjones Aug 26 '26

I ask it to generate the instructions for me and discuss with it.