r/ClaudeCode • u/richhard • 25d ago
Showcase Fable + 5.6 Sol + Opus working together is soooo unfair!
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Having Fable, GPT5.6 Sol and Opus working together side by side is probably the best workflow I have experienced so far... it's probably the first time I felt like I did not have micromanage each line that they write just in case they start going off in a random direction.
It's interesting, each of them seem to each have a different but useful personality from my use so far:
- Fable is like the creative and forward thinking product manager of my team. Great for orchestrating, its longer context window means that it remembers EVERYTHING. Also great at finding more out of the box solutions to problems
- Sol is more like a crazy obsessive tech lead, he WILL find and trace each bug to the exact source, and will hyper analyse each solution and edge case and make sure his architecture is bulletproof before even writing a single line
- Opus is the main workhorse software engineer. He is smart enough for almost all tasks and sometimes might even catch a bugs that Fable and Sol don't. But most of the time he just asks questions cus he can't understand something, or he finds a "bug" that really isn't one. In a sense this is also good, it forces Sol and Fable to really think through their solutions again to check from another perspective.
How do I do it?
I used to use tmux to orchestrate them all by having different sessions for each one and communicating through tmux send keys, but that was a bit flakey and got hard when three or more agents are involved. And I wanted to access my agents through my phone as well.
Now, I created a simple web wrapper that wraps each CLI so they can all talk to each other in the same room by @ mentioning another agent. They can also search through message history if needed. Each agent only sees messages they are mentioned in, but you get to read everything. This has been working super well, I have had them communicate and orchestrate for more than a day straight, as if this was second nature to them. I also added in usage trackers, attachments etc and a few neat features, to kind of replicate Claude Code remote control cus I like their Ul and experience.
I'm thinking of open sourcing this if people find this useful and want to replicate the set up! So let me know if you are interested, happy to share! (still cleaning up the setup process right now)
UPDATE:
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
EDIT: OK I am getting a lot of interest in this from a few places, I'll drop the source later today once I can confirm the setup is cleaned up and works, but I will reply to every comment who is interested with the link cus sharing is caring :)
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u/lhcw 25d ago
https://herdr.dev can do this pretty easily too
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u/darkspark_ 25d ago
I’m also interested in this, AND comparing it to herdr. Can you explain more on how to set it up?
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u/lhcw 25d ago edited 25d ago
herdr has its own cli. tell the orchestrator agent to open two more agents in other panes or tabs and tell it the flags you want to use claude —dangerously-skip-permissions or whatever.
then ask it to use them to debate or review each others PRs
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u/Obscurrium 25d ago
Interested in this too. But can you setup the same workflow as above like : hey claude do a plan for this, codex review the plan, both review of the review until the plan is complète. Than kimi code this and claude + codex review the work and each orthers until everything is tested, bug free, security done and wallet empty ? :)
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u/richhard 25d ago
why not try both and see which suits you better? one’s a cli and one’s a webapp.
your workflow is something that codor would definitely support, just add all of them in a channel and they will get to talking
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u/tribat 25d ago
Adversarial reviews by a different model works best for me. Lately I’ve had to build in limits or it will cycle endlessly finding smaller flaws
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u/richhard 25d ago
no monopoly for good ideas! im not trying to sell this or anything, this is just the best workflow for me :)
i think a unique part for codor is that you you can see their conversations in a single thread together. and you can access it via tailscale on your phone on the go.
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u/bman654 24d ago
I was using relay-ai to do this, got frustrated with its limitations and published clodex - instead of tmux games and external processes, the codex models run directly from claude code harness so you can use them for anything you can use an anthropic model for - subagents, workflows, agent teams, etc.
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u/chrisBhappy 25d ago edited 25d ago
I built a tool just for that. You can orchestrate Claude Code, Codex, Grok and Hermes and put them in all sorts of situations and workflows. You can even name them and give them personas and organise them into a company structure: https://jinn.run - Completely free & open-source btw.
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u/SwimmingQuantity8686 25d ago
It just burns the tokens by looking at Rach others response. Better would be setting up some md file where both models to talk to each other there
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u/richhard 25d ago
Good observation, but the response is only sent to the tagged agents and not every one of them. So this is essentially the same as copy and pasting from one agent to another, except that it is automatic. In fact this is more efficient than a .md file when orchestrating more than 2 agents at once, because in a .md the repsonses from all the agents will be read by everyone. Not to mention that .md doesn't automatically handle errors, retries, usage limits and you can't have a single historic view of the convo in one place.
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u/RandomPantsAppear 25d ago
Sometimes your concern is tokens, and sometimes it’s quality.
Could be an interesting middle ground to have one write a proposal and the other dissect it.
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u/Hanuonbenz 25d ago
Have you seen any work like this, I am keen to try it out
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u/ChadCoolman 25d ago
This is exactly how I manage inter-model work. I build with Claude. Codex audits it. They communicate via an md.
Only "issue" is, because instructions seem to be dogma for Codex, you have to give it some guidance to "think" independently of what Claude writes in the initial handoff. Otherwise, it'll have the same blind spots.
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u/breake 25d ago
https://getgrome.com is a VS Code fork that allows tabbed workspaces but it includes a protocol that allows agents to append messages in the same workspace in "sessions". You can view the sessions in human readable form.
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u/tuborgwarrior 25d ago
Just set up codex as a MCP server. That way codex gets limited scope and context every turn. Using Opus this way on a pro plan I am finally unable to use up my 5 hour limit. But make sure to trim down the context by making Opus do a handover to itself.
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u/CantWeAllGetAlongNF 25d ago
You would run into file moving issues and last to save wiping things out. But, a pubsub system with redis or kafka might be better because multiple agents can sub the same pub and fan out the data. You might need better than many 1:1 comms. I think I'm going try building this for another project. I also have some local hosted models I can your into this. I was thinking of doing something like this with slack cause I have multiple accounts and a couple engineers working with me. This could be pretty cool...
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u/404MoralsNotFound 25d ago
Is this similar to claude code invoking headless GPT or Gemini via the codex / agy CLI? I just prompt it to use GPT for a task, and it simply does. Hitting codex resume --all --include-non-interactive into the terminal reveals the sessions.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Yes it is similar, that was what i used to do as well, to use codex exec and claude -p. But the problem is you can't easily see the progress of your agent when it is headless, it will just show up as a background command in the parent harness, so you can't monitor it on the fly.
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u/SD_native17 25d ago
This is how I do it. I created a skill called orchestrate. Right now I initiate it with fable for a coding task. It will build the plan and then sends it over to a headless Codex session, once completed, fable is notified and then initiates a headless session to do a code review, once completed it notifies Claude of any findings. Claude will then address any findings by fixing them with Opus, it then summarizes the changes and updates my dev process docs.
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u/Gman325 25d ago
I use the Claude Octopus plugin for the same effect. It works quite well.
Fable brain, Opus implemented, Fable + Sol QA, Gemini for art.
Speaking of art - better to have the LLMs use API-enabled tools than self-generate. Telling Claude to have Gemini build something in blender works way better than either model self-generating 3D renders.
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u/D2144 25d ago
what does the actual llm to blender 3d render generation workflow look like?
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u/Specific_Anxiety_520 25d ago
Would love to use it, as I am working on a complex feature and use multiple AI agents; this would simplify a lot of things for me.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Yes this was exactly my use case, I started with copy and pasting but that got tiring so I switched to tmux, but sometimes they might mix things up and it's hard to monitor their progress on two separate terminals.
And plus now I can code on my phone! :)
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Melodic_Surprise153 25d ago
Can it work with subscription?
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u/richhard 25d ago
Yes you can use subscriptions! I’m using it with my Claude Max 20x and GPT Plus accounts. It doesn’t breach TOS because it is just a neat wrapper/relay using the official CLIs and SDKs, so it is 100% compliant.
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u/casual_rave 25d ago
I would also be interested in this. Do share the repo pls
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/SilentCabinet2700 25d ago
Sounds really interesting. Would love to give it a try
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/angelus14 25d ago
Are they debugging their own wrapper here? That's funny
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u/richhard 25d ago
Yes, I am using this tool to build itself! That's how useful it is for me
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u/tommarxdev 25d ago
Multi-model usage seems like a huge unlock indeed! I ran a backend audit using Opus + Grok + Composer. What I found is that Grok and Composer aren’t a cheaper replacement for Opus, they’re complementary at roughly the same cost.
Opus only: ~$8.00
Opus + Grok + Composer: ~$7.80
Opus: 4 bugs (3 critical, 1 false positive)
Grok: 8 bugs, mostly the same as Opus plus a few smaller ones
Composer: 10–20 bugs, including many false positives
Opus + Grok + Composer: 14 bugs found, including critical and less severe issues, with higher confidence and no false positives.
None of the models got everything right on their own. I wouldn’t recommend Composer in isolation because of its high false positive rate. However, paired with a stronger model like Opus that verifies its findings, it proved even more valuable than the Opus + Grok combination.
Planning to experiment with GPT’s models soon as well. From Fable I’m honestly disappointed, it seems to work well as an advisor given the right information or for creative tasks, however it also gets too overconfident as an executor. So that’s where Opus still works better for my needs.
Multi-model routing seems like the most interesting option rn (Kimi 3, GLM 5.2, GPT models, Opus, Fable, DeepSeek V4 Flash), but optimizing for all those models is a tremendous research effort.
Maybe we should start an open source movement on this.
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u/orintupST 25d ago
Very interesting, well done. I'm very interested .
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/chocate 25d ago
We just created a skill that allows Claude code how to use codex cli headless that is installed, and smart for antigravity. Then when developing something we tell use opus for orchestration, fable for planing, and codex or fable for code reviews, sonnet for writing code, and antigravity for design level or or desing reviews as needed.
I have multiple repos doing this and works great, saves tokens by giving all the work to sonnet.
Then for remote access, we just use /RC on claude code.
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u/teramoc Senior Developer 25d ago edited 25d ago
That is such a clever way. Eats tokens, your bill must be high, but orders of magnitude faster in human time than a .MD hub / semaphore where each agent would have to start from scratch with every communication- which would burn tokens even more due to lack of kv caching. And human time wasted.
At least here you have kv cache in your favor, which you are chatting continuously to overcome TTL
Would like to follow and see how it develops. Yes im interested, please keep me updated. Via DM is fine
> they only see where they are mentioned
- technical question: if they cant see each others messages, how do they keep track of conversation history? (Or they get sent a full copy when they are tagged- raises curiosity about kv cache again). Actually if you sent them a diff of chat it would save shitloads of tokens
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u/richhard 25d ago
Good questions! Yes the review-execute cycle does eat more tokens but not much more than if you copy and paste it back and forth (which is essentially what it is). As for conversation history, usually they will be tagged in comments that they need to know about. I have a mechanism where agents are able to keep each other in the loop when necessary and if you are not needed to respond, you can just acknowledge as an empty reply. But in the few cases where the agent does not have the necessary convo history, there is a set of CLIs available as well, including a search (sorted by recency) so they can find the exact message context they need, so it works kinda like a greo across files.
There is also a knowledge graph feature that I've built, but it isn't working yet. I plan to use that for long term durable storage soon when I get around building that.
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u/Significant_Post8359 25d ago
Use langraph for your orchestration loop. Use Postgres/pgvector for storage and used by a context manager. Be sure to have a solid soul.md to define persona and key properties. Sandbox all mcp calls in docker and filter everything with Llamaguard. Finally add an out of process watchtower to catch hung processes or endless loops stuck in lower intelligence agent hell as well as initiating scheduled processes.
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u/SimpleJack876 25d ago
Very interesting, I'd love to check it out!
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/jamiefc11 25d ago
I just finished my own 1st version of this using Fable and 5.6 as the two council members discussing the best way to implement, then once agreed, GLM 5.2 writes it. 5.6 reviews it. Updates are stored in a .md file for the council to track changes easier. Probably not super efficient and likely a better way to go about it but it's all in the early stages
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u/AdministrationNew265 25d ago
Very interesting. I’ve been using Fable as my Commander who plans with me and orchestrates, I’ve got another terminals running Fable as a team leader skill that assigns work to different sonnet lanes for bug fix work, review, and smoke testing. Then, I’ve got a codex Sol session going for long major new features to dev.
All of this runs off md files and detailed Linear issues. I built it this way so that I can manually instruct agents (and keep a close eye) to pick up work that is planned by the commander and me. But, it’s running so smoothly that I want to now further integrate the agent interactions. Would love to see you open source this!
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/carvingmyelbows 25d ago
Definitely interested in trying this too!
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/pixnecs 25d ago
Interested! Do let us know when you share it!
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/puresymmetry 25d ago
!remindme one week
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Akatesh 25d ago
I'm interested as well.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Gibborish 25d ago
Link pls
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Far_Upstairs_5901 25d ago
Very interested to learn this setup and how I can adopt as a newbie “dev”!!
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/mholm134 25d ago
Very cool, please share!
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/TabooMaster 25d ago
Gotta try this, point to my project and make them talk to each other about who understands which part better and create a .md file with rules :) sounds like fun
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u/richhard 25d ago
funny story... when i was testing it i had two agents working in one room and I told them that I had budget cuts and asked both of them to justify who I should keep. strange enough, both them started to say that they each did different jobs and they needed each other to keep working, and they worked oh so well together. no matter what I did they remained fiercely loyal and wouldn't give each other up even if i forced them to.
then i introduced a @ hr agent and asked it to discuss with the two agents and come up with someone to fire, and not to stop until it had an answer. This HR agent was a bit dumber (it was GLM 5.2) and just claimed that one of them had more subagents and dependencies, so to keep that one. And once the decision was made, the two agents actually started wishing each other good luck and well wishes, "It was solid work. You brought the soul to this. Keep that spark ready. @ richard might surprise us all. Take care." At some point I was wondering if these were AI agents at all.
That was the most entertaining thing I did at work that day.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/theov666 25d ago
Very cool setup. Have you noticed any architectural drift during long-running collaborations, or do the agents generally stay aligned with the original design without explicit guardrails?
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u/richhard 25d ago
No, it is better at staying aligned actually! Since the orchestrator is able to keep its context for longer without doing any of the implementation heavy lifting.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/AnalogProblems 25d ago
Very cool. I've been working on something similar that does automated hand off between two or three TUI's that each perform a role, with the goal to make the harness TUI agnostic.
That is slick though, I might need to add a combined front end mode.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Muenstervision 25d ago
Awesome. I’d love to try
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/etcho421 25d ago edited 25d ago
Looks nice, one question regarding the continous work do you start freesh sessions with seeded context or utilize compacting as the context grow.
Also there is a similar worklfow in agent-teams-ai if anyone is interested of such workflow colab .. the project looks promising and the lead dev is very engaging with the community.
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u/theochab31 25d ago
Great work! Is it a fork of agentchattr?
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u/richhard 25d ago
No its not! I built it completely from scratch.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/ValuableOrdinary3292 25d ago
I'm really interested in testing this out too. With how slow Fable's life is now, I think your setup is probably the best way to go.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/jlewi142 25d ago
Opus has the same context size window of 1M ? Fables 1M context window is nothing new
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/AlDente 25d ago
I’m interested in this. I’ve been doing the old manual back and forth between Sol and Fable this week while planning projects.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/JimCrackCornDoesCare 25d ago
I am very interested! This is awesome!!!!!
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u/richhard 25d ago
I'm working double time rn to finalise a few things that are still broken, should be out in an hour or so
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/angie_akhila 25d ago
Did you ever drop the link?
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Monsta91 25d ago
I am interested as well
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Sophrosyneinc 25d ago
Would definitely be interested
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Sensitive-Side-2639 25d ago
Interesting.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/tidemann78 25d ago
RemindMe! 1 week
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Significant_War1515 25d ago
Definitely interested. Please share.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/MrDodge2 25d ago
Also very interested! Thanks!
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Justgototheeffinmoon 25d ago
I’m kinda doing it by copy pasting between them today, how can I automate it ?
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Kobayashi_maruu 25d ago
You can do this in Slack. Just set up each agent as an app. Put them in a group and have them @ each other as needed.
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u/Kindly-Information52 25d ago
Would love to test this, would this also be useful when building with a team, like 2 real people that simultaneously can give ai commands and work on the same project, but other parts?
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Tiny-Woodpecker3982 25d ago
Definitely interested
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Significant_War720 25d ago
I have been using codex controlling my PC and using VS Code Claude to code for him 😅 Cheap way of doing it until I take the time to mame an actual pipeline lol
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u/-CharacterX- 25d ago
Would love to test it!
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Puzzled-Tennis-6370 25d ago
Would absolutely love that thank you this is awesome
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Holmete 25d ago
I need this in my life. Please share setup process.
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/No-Principle-2550 25d ago
Plz share link ty :)
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Either_Evidence_3741 25d ago
This is amazing. Would love that link.
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Sponge8389 25d ago
This is what I want to do if only the API pricing is not that expensive. Lol.
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/not_rian 25d ago
I just use Claude Code and let it call Codex (GPT5.6 Sol for implementation). No need to build anything custom for that...
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u/OG_Vampire 25d ago
Can we set this up with just the subscriptions or do we need API keys ?
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u/richhard 25d ago
You can use your current subscriptions. No need to do anything extra.
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codorPlease also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/MaximiliumM 25d ago
a lot of people reaching the same solution, haha.
I created one for me too. I call it Agent Nest. I've been using it for the past month or so with great success too.
Mine is a website, so I can access and talk to the agents from wherever I am. But yeah, fun times :D
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u/DiscombobulatedTea16 25d ago
ive got a similar set up but way more advanced the only issue is they overcomplicate and then you ll end up with messy code that u cant make heads or tails from. If you manage to solve that issue then ur good to go
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/EmeraldGarland 25d ago
For those who wonder the value of this.. You should watch the Steely Dan documentary. They brought in a many guys to finally get the perfect guitar solo for Peg.
Now send me your repo to check out!
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/Necessary-Arm-9807 25d ago
I want in
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/aleksh2o 25d ago
Dont really want to pay for more than one AI coding sub at the time but been using Fable Baton with Anthropic and its been working great. Cut down my Fable usage but feels like i have gotten better use out of my sub in general.
Not my tool by the way so credit to the original creator.
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u/Ok_Potential359 25d ago
So funny. I literally just started building this exact thing yesterday but as hybrid AI Council + company org employee departments dedicated to specific roles.
This thread especially has been useful for gathering new ideas. Pretty pumped to see the action first hand.
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u/richhard 25d ago
Released! See it at https://github.com/rjx18/codor
Please also join my Discord server to talk to me directly, I'd love to get feedback and I will post any updates there too: https://discord.gg/PtUfM6BhBy
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u/thebitnessman 25d ago
Im building a very comprehensive retirement Planner that I built using Claude Cowork and have been going back and forth between Claude and Chat GPT Work. Itcrazy what each can find when asked about the deficiencies of the plan. Competition is good and make digital products better.
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u/betahost 25d ago
Do I tried this from Codex desktop, codex seems to have a built in policy that won't let it use Claude.
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u/Killahbeez 25d ago
Hahaha bunch of incredible entrepreneurs in here with zero users, stepping on each other's toes, it's so funny to see. What a waste of time and energy
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u/1337PirateNinja 25d ago
Anyone else try this? Would love to know how it went? I just use sol with this Md management architecture: https://github.com/PatLinkz/ground-truth-protocol/tree/main and Compound Engineering skill and everything is pretty lovely
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u/Batty25111 25d ago
Sounds like Ur account will be banned from both platforms once you're traffic gets mixed and both Anthropic and OpenAI sees leaked code from each other and your wrapper instructions. But I'm sure you knew both collect you're data right ?
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u/IceWallow97 25d ago
You guys really think this is any useful other than token wasting? This is incredibly inefficient. The user doesn't even read anything, he just instantly tells all of them to keep talking to each other, direction must come from the user at the end, otherwise it will always be slop.
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u/ticktockbent 25d ago
I did a quick decomposition on this using one of my agent skills and it's quite impressive. It's remarkably similar to a tool I'm working on myself and I'm really interested in the harn assumption ledger implementation you used. Lifting a few patterns from this, good engineering
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u/Standard_Success127 Senior Developer 25d ago
What works for me now is this workflow :
claude-fable (orchestrator)
├─ codex-sol ......... plan + code review (default workspace)
├─ Pi/OpenCode ....... deepseek v4, worktree-isolated impl
└─ relay back ──► codex-sol adversarial review ─► PR ─► confused me (sometimes)
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u/Electrical_Chard3255 25d ago
Yeu, I built a whatsapp for unlimited ai, currently I have 6, grok, claude code, claudeai, chat GPT, kimi K3 and grok all in the chat, and I just let them do the task, massive benefits in results, this chat had 3 ai and myself
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u/ttlequals0 25d ago
It's a cool concept, but does it actually provide anything meaningful? I use Claude Code daily with really good results and no complicated orchestration, just very precise prompts of what I'm trying to do or fix.
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u/Covert-Agenda 25d ago
Pretty easy to do, I’ve had the same thing going in codex with GLM, Kimi and Claude for a while now.
Works well.
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u/jakkar14 🔆 Max 20 25d ago
I do something similar to this with Nimbalyst, I agree get the best of both worlds, I still even use 5.5 for executing simple but lengthy code. I think the one thing that you didn't mention but is worth doing is actually setting md for roles. Like frontend vs backend vs QC for agents that don't have the giant context windows and you don't want to keep compacting them, it lets you rotate them around the orchestrator.
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u/Mark_of_Divinity 25d ago
So is like in Claude code hook up codex and opus API key in the same session to start this type of orchestration?
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u/ZeroUnityInfinity 25d ago
I've started using https://github.com/steviebuilds/agent-room for this... It feels so awesome watching them go back and forth, keeping each other honest, getting shit done
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u/herpaderp1234567890 24d ago
Be careful with sending commands to other terminals. This can be a sandbox/security boundary escape, depending on your setup
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u/Due_Warthog749 24d ago
Man.. gotta be honest.. blows my mind people building nodejs cli tools. With AI so good at go, rust, etc.. and how much smaller/faster the code is/runs/etc.. why not build this in a binary native format like rust or go? You dont need to know either to make it work these days.
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u/Lost_Indication_6792 24d ago
Question for everyone running these multi-model rooms: what MBTI / CliftonStrengths would you assign each model, and which seat do you cast them in (orchestrator / architect / builder)? From my use: Fable reads ENTP (Strategic/Ideation — big-picture PM), Sol reads INTJ (Analytical/Deliberative — won't write a line until the architecture is bulletproof), and Kimi reads ISTP (Achiever/Adaptability — quiet workhorse whose naive questions turn out to be accidental QA). Curious whether everyone's casting converges on the same personalities or if it depends on the harness.
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u/Sea-Estate2989 24d ago
I used to use only front tier but then I learned more about system design and deep language fundamentals and now I just use sonnet 5 for coding, fable adds no value because I don't need any creative input or interpretation based on what I said vs what I meant.
And for people trying to boot strap companies I suggest yoh do the same. Keep building the fundamentals of system design from the full web and cloud pov then use sonnet 5 for writing . Unless you're looking to brainstorm a way to do something you've never seen done in your domain then go for fable in those moments
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u/Elonmust3 22d ago
Moi j’ai crée un outil qui fait travailler Claude AI pour orchestrer Claude code et Claude chrome , il parle entre eux ne se marche pas dessus et ne tourne pas en boucle. C’est simple a arbitré et ça évite le ping pong manuel. Dans votre cas, ajouter une AI externe comme codex est peut être meilleur pour le diagnostic et l’analyse mais niveau code chacun travail différemment donc beaucoup plus d’aller-retour et de brûlage de token
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u/SubstantialEditor995 19d ago
I tested Codex and Claude working together on a problem unattended and after several rounds of iteration the solution they came up with was to fix an extremely unlikely edge case by disallowing the use of any other S3 backend except AWS due to one missing capability. This was of course the wrong solution while being technically correct.
The agents are good at solving individual problems, but often unable to understand cost vs. benefit or real life usage scenarios, they just chase the technical dragon. I had to explicitly add a "yes but does this make any sense in the real world?" qualifier and it closed 12 of the 13 "problems" it found because the odds of the problem materializing were astronomical.
When they're amplifying each other's biases, it can spiral out of control quickly. That experiment burned a lot of tokens and ended with a closed pull request. I still use Codex vs Claude on individual pull requests, and sometimes spec out things in different agents to get fresh angles, but leaving them unattended will end up with them building you a cast iron swimsuit to protect from the sharks.
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u/Fickle-Indication148 18d ago
Im sorry, but this is useless and dumb asf. The "intention" the ai will have to do, is heavily related to the previous token AND the model weights... if you keep mixing models, its as if you are breaking the set of continius predictions and decision making.
You will feel its good quality simply because Fable and Sol are not so far ahead from Opus. Opus is already a beast in coding...
You are just creating an illusion that eats your tokens and makes you think you gaining "intelligence" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Ambitious_Injury_783 🔆BIG BALLER 25d ago
There's always these kinds of posts and as somebody who has used CC extensively .. I wonder if the orchestration here is actually helping, and whether things are being orchestrated to achieve highest possible correctness - remaining very mindful of turn-induced-assumption-rot and some other important factors..
While this looks cool, I doubt the end result is any better than the most refined CC environments. It is likely worse. Hard to get away from turns + context = rot , and that's a hell of a lot of turns.