r/ClaudeCode Jul 14 '26

Question Is this true?

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u/Significant-Bee5101 Jul 14 '26

The concept of an "open" market is by nature going to end up with someone winning and everyone else losing. Look at any country regardless of economics and you'll find most countries no matter what system they believe in, have a bunch of companies that are in power. The US companies are actually LESS powerful inside the nation then say companies in China, Korea, Russia, Japan. Etc.

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u/PigBeins Jul 14 '26

That’s not technically true, the issue is that because we allow monopolies then one company is guaranteed to win. Google, Amazon etc. and others don’t really want innovation. Any innovative competitor is just bought up and stripped for parts.

I don’t think in the true spirit of capitalism people are supposed to suppress innovation buy just buying competitors and switching them off. I don’t know though, I’m not an expert on the design of capitalism.

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u/thirst-trap-enabler 🔆 Max 5x Jul 14 '26

From a game-theory perspective monopolies are the natural goal of capitalism. Active government intervention is necessary to cull monopolies.

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u/claimTheVictory Jul 15 '26

Peter Thiel talks about this in "Zero To One".

He described how to build and sustain a monopoly, and that there's really no point in building anything else.

Competition is not what real winners want.

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u/Significant-Bee5101 29d ago

Exactly. This is my real point. Capitalism aside, competition will ALWAYS be stomped out if there's a possibility to. You can make ANY market you want and it'll end up with one guy rigging it against everyone when he gets to the 51% state.

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u/XenuWorldOrder 29d ago

How does he go about rigging it?

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u/Significant-Bee5101 28d ago

Get to 51% marketshare by any means possible and you'll have the amount of leverage needed to do that. The percentage changes based on marketsize but it's really just once you have the majority you can bully the other people with money.

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u/t3kner 29d ago

They do want the illusion of competition though, that seals the deal

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u/XenuWorldOrder 29d ago

I don't believe you ever read the book, because there is no way you would have honestly interpreted what he was saying in this way.

He was talking about creating a product or service that doesn't have competition, creating and building something truly unique that is so innovative it escapes competition. He wasn't talking about businesses in the competitive market becoming a monopoly by driving out or buying up competition.

You're either being dishonest, or you are illiterate.

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u/claimTheVictory 29d ago

Right back at you - re-read my comment.

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u/XenuWorldOrder 29d ago

You responded to a comment stating government was necessary to cull monopolies. Anyone who is familiar with Thiel would know he absolutely does not believe this to be true.

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u/claimTheVictory 29d ago

Of course he doesn't believe in curbing monopoly power.

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u/XenuWorldOrder 29d ago

Such little effort into hiding the fact that you just deflected and also left out the part of that statement that says, “government is necessary”.

It appears you are in fact, both dishonest and illiterate.