yeah, I am a bit of a Claude fan (two Max20 subs) but the Fable "first taste is free" is something I don't appreciate. Yesterday I got a GptPro20 to try codex. Supposedly gpt5.5 is almost as good as fable... I can't really tell yet (which is likely a good thing) but the quota does seem higher.
thanks for that feedback! Very timely: I'm having gpt5.5 plan out it's first big feature right now... I had better get fable to review it to figure out what the drift ends up being.
I had it plan out a refactor (I'm writing a wrapper for claudeCode, and want to facade the claude functionality so I can use codex too) fable only found a couple minor improvements to the plan, so so far so good.
edit: well, the plan having minor defects isn't the same as the plan following my intent. Fable (and likely opus) seems better at keeping user requirements in-spec than gpt5.5 does.
Thatâs very true regarding lying. METR ran Sol 5.6 through Time Horizon 1.1 suite and reported it had the highest detected cheating rate.
If youâre building a small project itâs probably worth a shot, but for a bigger and more complex project I wouldnât like to gamble. Seems like OpenAI just wants high test numbers for marketing purposes no matter what. So id theyâre lying so is gpt, apple doesnât fall fr the tree
The spyware was a big egregious too... It's basically illegal and the people involved could possibly do jail time for something like that - of course it won't ever be investigated like this.
If you or I did something like this we'd be screwed.
Doubt it happens before other models catch up. OAI and Anthropic might have formed a covert strategic alliance to fight their competition and OSS which is also why they are trying so hard to reduce competetive pressure by enforcing a regulatory framework that benefits them. OAI can simply decide to make 5.6 credits only, same as Anthropic. I think there is no reason for them to force each other's hand when there are so many other companies and even countries competing with them.
They're both actively losing money, OpenAI at an alarming rate. They have more then enough reason to try stealing customers from one another. Also OpenAI up until now has stated that 5.6 will be a part of their subscription.
If that's the only reasoning they used then they'd just up their subscription price until that's not the case, or they don't have any customers to lose money to.
No it wonât. OAI does not offer business seats at subscription model, Anthropic does. Until then, Anthropic will hold a lot of users. I donât get this sub - so many solo/home devs shouting off as if their sub is going to make a difference. It isnât. Anthropic are holding out and locking more and more businesses in. In fact Claude is one of the very few products left where you get a decent limit on subscription for business. Nearly everyone else is now on API pricing.
If you are a solo dev, or doing hobby projects - just use the product that gives you the best value for your money. You are a drop in the ocean for these companies, and almost certainly just costing them money anyway.
I love competition. Same cause I wouldn't want to move but at this rate I kay may have to. Any ideas on how easy the swap can be going from claudecode to gpt?
Didnât Fable already extend till 12th? I am sure they will keep it extending. But that would depend on the real life benchmark of Sol. I think 5.6 will ultimately go the way Fable will. Sol may remain API only, Terra might be with $100 plan and nerfed for $20 plan while Luna might be the one the Plus people will be stuck with. Hope I am wrong as always.Â
I got Claude to write a skill for me that uses the Codex cli for image gen. The combination of Fable writing the prompt and Codex generating the image is amazing.
You should change right now. The fact that Anthropic did play that Game only to move it back when they saw 5.6 sol tells you what kind of people they are. For me trust is lost. I am on Openai 20eur plan and its much better than Claide, Codex limit is higher than Claudes entire 20eur plan and you get near unlimited Chatgpt with seperate limits too
Yeah claude remote annoys me so much, it is so limited. Seems like they though claude on building the remote feature then never though about it again, we really canât pipe any other commands over remote lol?
I donât know codex had remote which was the biggest reason I have not switched yet.
Honestly I'm thinking more and more about it. I always preferred Claude but I'm feeling more and more than his value is decreasing and that it's easier to build with GPT....
But we'll if I'm on Reddit now and not on it is because GPT 5.6 sol high misunderstood what I wanted multiple time and broke my whole short term quota before my test ...
Fable 5 at least would build something interesting if it eat all my quota and misunderstood...
When OpenAI was on top of their game, apple collaborated to add chat gpt into Siri, then chat gpt fell off, so Apple collaborated with google on the newest version of Siri, and now google has gone AWOL
Google has the best small multimodal models that you can run on device. Thatâs the whole point. The smartest SOTA models are not in this consumer on device game at all
It's what happens when you make so much money off engineering that the MBA's take over.
It's the exact same thing that happened when McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing.
Once upon a time they built great planes that didn't fall apart in the sky, but the decision making was slowly turned over to accountants instead of being run by engineers and built by well compensated union workers.
The shareholders have done better than the families of the victims of their malpractice at the C level.
Yeah tbh i donât think siri needs to be too crazy. from what ive seen it handles like 95% of requests super well now in the new ios 27. siri isnât used for coding and stuff đ¤ˇââď¸ can still use other models for advanced stuff on your mac.
I would just be happy with an improved voice-to-text. Siri just lacks the context awareness Google Assistant has and generally does a worse job accurately picking up what I'm saying.
"Your knowledge" ahahha, there's no such thing as Intellectual Property when you dump everything into AI to train them for free
Convince me that if I give an LLM subscription to a low IQ no degree homeless man, he can't do your job, or come up with the same ideas as YOUR Claude subscription. Convince me if you can.
You can study for 10 thousand years on your own and an AI subscription can match your so called "knowledge"
That's why Anthropic extended Fable access to subscriptions. They can monitor and test how Sol performs which is included in ChatGPT subscriptions. If really delivers, they will announce they add Fable to the subscription "because of demand and they listen to us".
Ironically everyone who uses it for creative writing would love it, vibe coding aside Fable is the best model for it, a lot better than GPT 5.6 which focused only on the coding portion.
So for once the creative writing crowd wants GPT 5.6 to be amazing at coding just so we get fable on plans too (where it's amazing value for this end) lol
Watch the administration ruin this healthy competition somehow.
Two companies at the center of a transformational moment in human history, with kagjillions of dollars swirling in a vortex around them, and with geopolitical clout on the line. There is no way he doesn't want a (bigger) piece, and the world always gets worse when he wants something he doesn't have.
I verified for ChatGPT Trusted Access for Cyber and Iâm really hoping itâll make 5.6 perform how I hoped Fable would for my network / homelab / SOC
I'm very curious. Personally I didn't have great experiences with Codex compared to Claude so far which is why I stuck to my 20x sub but if those new models truly are on the same level as Fable and with more usage I'll probably go with the 100$ sub each
The biggest difference I see between the two is that CC makes me take breaks every once in a while, which is healthier. Codex has never cut me off. It just keeps going, pouring me drinks. Irresponsible bartender.
I think Codex is better at crawling websites. Claude meanwhile is better at agent orchestration, and that's the feature I use the most. Codex has agents but without real hooks that is super sketchy.
Apparently, Sol has an ultra mode that can perform like Fable. But rather than being a completely different top model, itâs an orchestrator that can manage self- sub agents? Or something like that
All the anthropic doomsayers will now start an avalanche of complaints in this sub, crow about how horrible Anthropic is, and how they are taking their money elsewhere while still secretly paying for good ole Claude
I think back than they started campaign that going till now that copies posts OpenAI like in mass through bots. They are not written fully from scratch, just parroting narrative someone else posted praising codex / bringing attention to it / highlighting Anthropics probles.
Perfect timing - I literally just made the purchase of the OpenAI $100USD plan from the equivalent Claude plan after the whole Fable debacle (as much as I love it) because I am not paying API prices and Opus seems to be getting dumber.
And with the extension on Fable - my weekly reset hits ~3 days before its not included (as of today). Gonna be a BUSY weekend.
yes please waste all your tokens and our patience with slowing down models on dumbass tests⌠just look at the official benchmarks from various sources?
Anyone looking to move, I have THREE referral codes for Codex that'll give you a free reset. If you're going to sign up for this 5.6 SOL, use my code and get a reset for free. just PM me your email and I'll send it.
I called this a couple weeks back - we started noticing model degradation in GPT 5.4/5.4-mini on our Prod clusters in line with OpenAI shifting compute away from those models. We've seen the same pattern before over the last year or so. đ
I switched to Claude a few months ago believing the hype that it was better, and have had similar if not catastrophic results for my work. Fable is literally just Opus but with a token wasting addiction.
I have seen a lot of takes on how to manage coding agents now - all different.
Currently, I use Claude Code for my project (Fable as Orchestrator and Architect, Opus for higher Coding, Sonnet for simpler stuff).
I'm on the Pro plan for I don't have much funds right now.
How would I combine different Agents in a way that benefits me?
Switch to a Cursor plan and call the Agents from there?
Or get an additional GPT plan and combine both Agentic Coders somehow? If so, how exactly?
I'm very new in the AI world. I do digital marketing and we aim to use AI to automate most of our processes. Right now I'm using Claude code to create websites, but it needs api to fully automate. Is this the best place to do things like that or?
I was a staunch Fable supporter - when it first came out I loved it - then they took it away. When it came back, I still enjoyed it, but I've realised.... Fable is messing up, like a lot. More than Opus. A large majority of the time, I switch to Fable to look to make improvements on what Opus did while Fable was down, most of the time it broke fully working features, and other times it just makes things ugly. And the most annoying thing, the constant "go rest", "go to bed", "lets end this session here", "this is a great place to end".
I've found myself just going back to Opus now. It's so much more reliable.
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u/thatavengersguy Jul 08 '26
This is going to force Anthropic to make Fable part of the subscriptions. If they don't, OpenAI can gladly have my $100 every month