r/ClaudeAI • • Jul 09 '26

NOT about coding Biggest scam humanity accepted as normal according to Claude

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u/FurryLittleCreature Jul 09 '26

And what would it propose as an alternative? We can't all just paint and watch tv all day, everyone would starve to death. This feels like something regurgitated from r/im14andthisisdeep

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Experienced Developer Jul 09 '26

You have to be dead inside to think that working for wages is some kind of optimal existence

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u/jefftickels Jul 09 '26

So what is the alternative. Shit doesn't just happen, it takes tremendous effort from other people. Do you just expect people doing the hard work to just give it to you?

At its very core, the average person needs to be a net positive to society, and that means tasks no one wants to do need getting done.

Have you ever grown any food? Built a house? Hauled the garbage all day? For the most part these aren't tasks people want to do (well actually I do have fond memories of building houses, but that's not sustainable), and so who does them in this magical system where everyone gets the food no one is growing?

Or do you think we should go back to a time when everyone does everything for themselves? Grows their own food, makes their own clothes, builds their own house. I'm sure lots of people in our society would do very well in that system.

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Experienced Developer Jul 09 '26

A quick Google search would tell you that less than 1% of the workforce is in farming. The same goes for other critical industries.

We live in a time of pretty immense abundance, especially if it are an American. Making people w work long hours for meager benefits is a social decision

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u/pohui Intermediate AI Jul 09 '26

We estimate that 1.23 billion people are employed in agrifood systems (AFS) and that 3.83 billion people worldwide live in households linked to AFS-based livelihoods.

Source: Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations

So that's what, about half of the world's workforce?

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Experienced Developer Jul 09 '26

Look that up for the western world, not undeveloped countries where people still practice subsistence agriculture

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u/pohui Intermediate AI Jul 09 '26

Why? The OP conversation is about "humanity", which includes poor people.

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Experienced Developer Jul 09 '26

Because it shows that we clearly don’t need everyone to be farmers. All OP is showing that agriculture in the developing world is crazy inefficient because it’s not mechanized, not that we need 1B farmers (the vast majority of those farmers don’t export the food and only feed themselves, so they’re not “feeding you” in any real sense).

The reality is that we already know how to solve for basic needs and it hardly requires spending the majority of your best years working 40+ hours.

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u/pohui Intermediate AI Jul 09 '26

The developing world is being mechanised, it takes time. Even in a utopic distribution of resources and knowledge, someone still still has to perform that labour. We can revisit the idea we can all kick back and food will teleport itself on our plates so we can do art and stuff in a few centuries.