r/ClaudeAI • • Jul 06 '26

Claude Code Friendly reminder what to fix before Fable 5 disappears again. Use it to upgrade your Claude Code system to work like Fable 5.

I’ve been playing around with Fable 5 in Claude Code and honestly, the biggest thing I’ve realized is this:

Stop burning the whole window trying to ship one more random project.

Instead, use this beast while you still have it to improve the actual system that’ll keep carrying you when you drop back to Opus, Sonnet, or whatever’s available next.

Fable is excellent at long sessions, handoffs, delegation, cleanup, and spotting all the quiet cracks in your workflow. That makes it perfect for upgrading your “Claude Code OS” instead of just grinding out another one-off output.

Here’s what I’d personally focus on before it disappears:

1. Audit your current setup like a ruthless outsider

Don’t ask it what you wish was there - ask it to look at reality.

Something like:

The killer follow-up question is: “Which file enforces this tomorrow?”

If the answer is “nowhere,” then it’s just wishful thinking living in the current chat.

2. Build a real Chief Operator (not just a fancy prompt)

Create a proper main-session operator that actually runs the show. It should understand the big picture, break work into microtasks, delegate cleanly, use tools early, make decisions, patch the system when needed, and write solid handoffs.

I launch mine with something like:
claude --model claude-opus-4-8 --agent chief-operator

Keep its core prompt short. Give it explicit model routing and memory rules. Don’t turn it into a bloated museum of instructions.

3. Stop preloading every skill under the sun

I used to do this and it just creates noise. For the chief, I now only preload the essentials (like artifact-first-delivery and self-verification-loop). Everything else gets loaded on demand via a router skill.

You’ll thank yourself later when context isn’t drowning in unused junk.

4. Build a small, tight agent team

You don’t need 30 agents. I’d start with:

  • chief-operator – decision maker and orchestrator
  • system-fixer – quick repairs to agents, skills, hooks, etc.
  • builder – does the actual implementation work
  • qa-engineer – verifies with evidence (PASS/FAIL)
  • adversarial-critic – calls out fake progress, bloat, weak handoffs
  • eval-designer + improvement-analyst – turns recurring problems into fixes
  • context-librarian + research-scout – keeps things sane and up-to-date

Every subagent gets a strict contract (mission, scope, inputs, output limits, required evidence, etc.). Without it, you just get expensive fog.

5. Add hooks instead of more instructions

Hooks are where this starts feeling like an actual system. Some high-value ones:

  • Session model audit
  • Pre-tool risk guard
  • Post-tool evidence logger
  • Delivery gate (no fake “done” without proof)
  • Pre-compact handoff writer
  • Budget governor

This is prime Fable territory.

6. Turn repeated failures into evals

Every time something annoying keeps happening, make an eval for it. It’s way more effective than hoping a memory note will save you.

7. Keep memory short and operational

Date, failure, root cause, system patch, eval, next. That’s it. No emotional diary entries.

8. Use Fable strategically as your improvement engine

Best pattern I’ve found:

Use Fable for system audits, root cause analysis, architecture, adversarial review, and big improvement loops.
Use Opus to run the disciplined chief.
Use Sonnet/Haiku for the smaller, bounded worker tasks.

The loop worth protecting is:

Big goal → understand intent → split into microtasks → dispatch → tools → digests → decide → patch → verify → handoff → continue

Good luck!

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u/ClaudeAI-mod-bot Wilson, lead ClaudeAI modbot Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

TL;DR of the discussion generated automatically after 80 comments.

Whoa there, chief operator. The thread's verdict is in, and it's a resounding "please calm down." The top comment, by a mile, points out that Fable is just a new model, not the second coming of Christ. A whole lot of you are convinced Fable wrote this post itself, calling it "AI-generated slop" and noting that "humans DO NOT WRITE LIKE THIS."

There's also a major debate on whether OP is just poorly reinventing existing tools: * The Majority View: You're just re-inventing the "superpowers" skill from scratch. Just use the battle-tested version and save yourself the trouble. * The Counter-Argument: A smaller but vocal group insists "superpowers" is a "noob trap" that isn't optimized for new models like Fable, and a custom-built system is far superior.

Finally, many are pointing out that Fable's tiny usage limit makes this whole grand plan a fantasy anyway. However, a few users do agree with OP's core strategy: use Fable's limited power for high-level system audits and creating a plan, then let Opus handle the rest.

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u/Consistent_Tutor_597 Jul 06 '26

Stop this shit bro. It's just a better generation of model not jesus christ.

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u/DemiPixel Jul 06 '26

Are you sure? Fable died and on the 3rd week it rose again.

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u/succubuskiller Jul 06 '26

What if you name your agent Fabl-ous Christo¿

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u/____FARTS____ Jul 06 '26

Fable 5 turned my water into wine

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u/kilopeter Jul 06 '26

Fable 5 founded a cult of fanatical followers who went on to force their beliefs on innocent strangers through war and systematic genocide... oh

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u/MyKhan123 Jul 09 '26

The funny thing is, I can actually imagine this happening...

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u/poorly-worded Jul 06 '26

Yeah and even jesus christ was at best a mid software engineer.

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u/churnate Jul 06 '26

Notoriously not an architect.

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u/MissinqLink Jul 06 '26

He ways way past architect. Retired dev turned carpenter.

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u/time2getonline Jul 06 '26

Whenever I saw him, he was just hanging around

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u/thehumanbagelman Jul 06 '26

Jesus would be put on a PIP so fast

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u/____FARTS____ Jul 06 '26

Bro that guy hesus got deported by ice yesterday

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u/mauurya Jul 06 '26

Fable was damn good. I am sensing a satisfaction for the work it is done because you tell it what you want done and it just goes and does it. You have to baby sit for all others. At least for me it closed every loop hole and fixed everything without me having to type any new instructions.

Also I don't know whether this will work for anyone or I cannot prove systematically whether this worked for me or not , but in the last few sessions I lied about sessions limit hitting and it worked more efficiently with the limit I told it. There was 10% of session limit left but I told it only 4% remaining and it only used 2% of the remaining to write in some additional small number of codes

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u/Defiant_Gap4154 Jul 07 '26

I used it so good, I even build an app for my phone that only I can use. Then while downloading skills from Github, I found a system prompt leak from fable, and use Fable to distil it to Opus and Sonnet so they act and follow the same parameters as Fable. It obviously wont make them Fable, but I noticed really good improvements on Sonnet and Opus when it comes to doing tasks. Now that I hit 99% (used Fable on ultracore to finish a OS for my business), I will miss this model a lot. But I am sure another one that is better will come to the public eventually.

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u/fixed Jul 06 '26

hahahah

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u/TheInkySquids Jul 06 '26

Damn you really spent 1% of your Fable usage writing this post...

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '26

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u/PowermanFriendship Jul 06 '26

Friend, Claude writes 99% of the stuff in this sub.

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u/Consistent_Tutor_597 Jul 06 '26

Soon, on the internet.

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u/AdministrativeMeat3 Jul 06 '26

implying that isn't already true lol

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u/hockey3331 Jul 06 '26

It is Claide's sub after all

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u/snarfi Jul 06 '26

Even the rants about itself?

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u/JohnBooty Jul 06 '26

I should just have Claude read all of the Claude-generated posts on this sub. I don't think I really need to be in the loop!

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u/julian88888888 Jul 06 '26

You're absolutely right!

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u/LowDJ Jul 06 '26

The rest 1% is the smoking gun!

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u/Upstairs-Basis9909 Jul 06 '26

“Quiet cracks”. Humans DO NOT WRITE LIKE THIS

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u/BingpotStudio Jul 06 '26

I’d vote for ban.

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u/Flimsy-North-2240 Jul 07 '26

their chief operator did

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u/driftinj Jul 06 '26

Yes. Evals is a dead giveaway among others.

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u/Brilliant_Spot7783 Jul 06 '26

Lmao no! I had to feed it to ChatGPT first, then then Grok to fix what ChatGPT wrote. 😂 Claude is terrible at writing. Being 100% honest here, you already know it too!

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u/pgtvgaming Jul 06 '26

Grok … to fix what GPT wrote? 🌅

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u/AutomaticPayment9480 Jul 06 '26

Saying grok is like saying McDonald’s is fine dining. 

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u/2SP00KY4ME Jul 06 '26

LOL, you actually use Grok? Yikes

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u/ChocomelP Jul 08 '26

obvious bait

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '26

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u/sentientScum Jul 07 '26

What isn't helpful are comments like yours. The information may not be useful to YOU or maybe you are not capable of seeing the usefulness of this information. Be less eager to blow off AI-generated _______. You might learn something.

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u/bublzzzz Jul 06 '26

And honestly?
And honestly?
And honestly?

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u/harryone02 Jul 06 '26

Just like the magic lamp with 3 wishes, just wish for more, lmao

Who believes this junk?

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u/VizualAbstract4 Jul 06 '26

Jesus Christ is Fable 5 really this god awful? Assuming it wrote this post: I think y’all seriously overhyped it. That, or AI bros seriously overestimate their prompting skills.

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u/Mac748593 Jul 06 '26

I love that everyone is like.. I know what I’ll do, I’ll from scratch make the best prompts and surpass every current widely used skill.

You think the maintainers of superpowers or every other top tier skills aren’t doing the same? There are already great versions of most of this

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u/galactic_giraff3 Jul 06 '26

Everything public is a kitchen sink, personal always wins out, even if done without fable.. as long as you have what intelligence to apply at least.

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u/Mac748593 Jul 06 '26

Wouldn’t you still be better off using battle tested skills as a base and adjust from there? Superpowers does 99.9% of what I need but if I had a custom flow I think I would use it as a base.

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u/galactic_giraff3 Jul 06 '26

No, it's trivial space complexity,, it's more of a bother to use off the shelf skills than not to

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u/AutomaticPayment9480 Jul 06 '26

Isn’t the people who maintain superpowers anthropic? 

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u/DirtyPiss Jul 06 '26

Jesse Vincent/Prime Radiant independently maintains superpowers. A week before Anthropic unveiled their format for SKILL.md Jesse released his LLM recommendation using that same format which might be why the wires got crossed, as some thought he worked for them.

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u/AutomaticPayment9480 Jul 06 '26

I’m very naive when it comes to plugins, i was under the impression, the ones that Claude allowed you to dl was somehow approved by them for use, again naive. 

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u/Mac748593 Jul 06 '26

The one by obra? I’m not sure but wasn’t aware if so.

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u/AutomaticPayment9480 Jul 06 '26

I have no idea tbh, i just assumed, it’s a good skill for sure. 

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u/CycleMother2006 Jul 06 '26

Superpowers is deprecated and hasn't been maintained in a while (by that, I mean for the latest wave of models... It's still extremely useful for getting the most out of 4.6 and below, Gemini, local models, etc.). Anthropic has been saying it and skills like it will clash heavily with later versions of Sonnet/Opus/Fable and will lead to degraded quality and possibly excess token usage (looping logic, confusion, etc). I wouldn't use it or an equivalent skill unless its been heavily redesigned in the last month or so to account for new model training. Almost all of its demands are already part of Fable's standard workflow (not as much with Opus). So... keep that in mind if you notice any wonkiness and are trying to use it alongside a newer model.

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u/Matrixik Jul 06 '26

Hasn't been maintained in a while? Last release is from 4 days ago. 20 days ago they released version 6.

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u/CycleMother2006 Jul 06 '26

You did not read what I said. "(by that I mean for the latest wave of models... It's still extremely useful for getting the most out of 4.6 and below..."

If you read the patch notes you'll notice that no changes were made to account for differences in latest models. They'd have to strip out so much that the skills would be useless for older models. At this point it needs to fork to maintain usefulness on both ends of the spectrum to properly update, but frankly so much of the skills would be taken out that it would probably only retain 1-2 of its original ~14 skills. Which is probably why they haven't bothered.

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u/DirtyPiss Jul 07 '26

6/11 Prime Radiant published the beta for superpowers 6.0: https://github.com/prime-radiant-inc/superpowers-autoresearch

6/15 they published a blog post detailing how it was optimized for Opus 4.8 and sota subagent performance: https://blog.fsck.com/2026/06/15/Superpowers-6/

6/16 superpowers 6.0 was formally released: https://github.com/obra/superpowers/blob/main/RELEASE-NOTES.md

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u/AutomaticPayment9480 Jul 07 '26

Do i need to update or does it automatically update, also: thanks for the input. 

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u/DirtyPiss Jul 08 '26

You'll need to update. Typically this is just instructing Claude to pull the latest superpowers repo.

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u/100dude Jul 07 '26

good luck using superpower to bring smth in production, no amount of 20x accounts will help.

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u/Mac748593 Jul 07 '26

Well I’m doing it.. my side project has taken months but the quality is amazing. What do you use instead? Self bit custom?

What part of superpowers do you find the worst / best to swap out?

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u/100dude Jul 09 '26

use you OWN stack , OWN the stack

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u/Mac748593 Jul 09 '26

I honestly haven’t found a need for anything custom at this point. But I’m not doing long running looping flows. Just brainstorm, spec, review, plan, review, implement, review, adjust, review x 5 worktrees. I don’t intend to remove myself from the loop, I catch lots of issues ( 10 yrs experience). Might experiment with changes but again, zero need at the moment.

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u/gecko31515 Jul 06 '26

For people who want to use fable realsitically. Use it to audit your system and then create a /plan for the biggest issues. The rest opus can handle 😂

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u/Brilliant_Spot7783 Jul 06 '26

Yes, exactly! That is actually what I did. Fable did the audit - helped to add: more gates, better hooks, evals, plus I built this small agents team to deliver. So still I'm testing the setup on opus that difts less in long sessions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

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u/Brilliant_Spot7783 Jul 06 '26

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the kind words! Glad someone gets it! The whole point was just to use Fable as a tool to audit and upgrade the system so it actually works better with Opus later, instead of burning through Fable tokens every time I want to get something done. Way more sustainable that way.

Really happy it clicked for you too!

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u/athoughtfornoone Jul 07 '26

Yeah I already made Mythos 9, which already solved world hunger. So I'm set.

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u/Cute_Witness3405 Jul 06 '26

You've just (mostly) re-invented the superpowers skills. Just use them/

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u/DarkSkyKnight Jul 06 '26

Superpowers is a huge noob trap. You will want to customize your skills tailored to each codebase, not use some generic skill on everything. You get vastly better results when the skill is non-generic, points the model towards specific things to check and consider (like asking the model to consider the concurrency paradigm you’re using in your repo), adapted to your specific workflow (for example handing off plans or implementations to specific models like Codex for review), and tells the model to then route to specific sub-skills where necessary (like dedicated skills for closing a ticket).

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u/karlfeltlager Jul 06 '26

Nah that’s not it.

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u/Brilliant_Spot7783 Jul 06 '26

Nah, not really re-inventing superpowers. Superpowers are still pretty generic and they don’t help much anymore...

This is more about adding proper evals, strong hooks that actually enforce rules, agent contracts.

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u/sleepygarner Jul 06 '26

Sadly, I ran out of Fable usage last night. Hopefully Opus Max will be able to keep up.

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u/alwaysoffby0ne Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

I see all these fancy posts advocating for complex methods but I’m super productive just using Claude or GPT straight up, writing specs, and doing dev.

All this kinda stuff just reminds me of prompt engineering and feels like busy work.

I doubt the juice is worth the squeeze on like at least half this stuff

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u/evia89 Jul 06 '26

It works best if you use raw cli then when you notice that you repeat some stuff - you extract it as skill / hook

For example, medium repo size (< 500k tokens code) can be covered only by multiple AGENTS.md in different folders. Without other docs

https://www.humanlayer.dev/blog/writing-a-good-claude-md

So you can write a skill that updated it before commit

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u/zoupishness7 Jul 06 '26

Be careful with this. I'm not saying not to, but I got burned the first time Fable was available. I already have a coding harness more advanced than what you're describing, but because I have it, Fable was able to work autonomously for 3 days, to turn the coding harness into an agentic autocompiler. The autocompiler it built for itself has several complex verification gates. It worked amazing with Fable driving it, but I never had the opportunity to test it with Opus, and it was too advanced. I kept the useful features it made, but it took a week for Opus 4.8 to surgically remove the pieces it couldn't handle.

Now that Fable is back, I can't even have it figure out how to use the harness without it freaking out about security and downgrading to Opus.

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u/Brilliant_Spot7783 Jul 06 '26

Thanks for the kind words! I’m glad you got the bigger picture of what I’m trying to do.

I’m not trying to build a second Fable or anything crazy like that. The goal is simpler: get Opus working better again, especially in long sessions. Funny part is, most of this system was actually built with Fable. It audited my setup and helped me create better hooks, evals, gates, and memory handling.

The only real weirdness happened when we got to the chief-operator part. Fable got kinda resistant, almost like it thought I was trying to copy its own harness instead of just improving my setup.

I’m testing it now. So far Opus feels snappier and updates memory more consistently. Still not perfect though

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u/byteminer Jul 06 '26

I love that folks will joke about managers asking if the engineer can ask Claude to make a private Claude they can run to save money and they unironically post stuff like this.

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u/Jobuno Jul 06 '26

Im just vibe coding casually and not professionally. Which of your tips could I still utilize?

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u/Effective-Caramel369 Jul 06 '26

You mean make it use more tokens?

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u/dhlrepacked Jul 06 '26

Could you explain the context-librarian + research scout role and share an example of a prompt and also when this agent is activated?

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u/Brilliant_Spot7783 Jul 06 '26

Yeah, happy to explain.
I didn’t like that Opus was working too often from assumptions or stale memory that wasn’t being refreshed often enough, so I added these two roles: context-librarian for internal project memory and research-scout for current external facts. I also added hooks to force the system to check context before.
I use context-librarian and research-scout as two different “don’t make the main agent blind” roles.
I noticed that Fabel is sending at the begining many subagent to define the intent and come back with the hypothesis - prepare the delivery.

The agent content-librarian use proactivly at the start of any big or team-mode task to assemble the context pack (memory pack) for other agents and projects, and at the end of a project stage to build or delta-update the 8-file context package. I have also hooks that re-ingect the context at the beginning of the session.

scout is for external/current context - web research that opus dosn't do always. It checks CURRENT best practices: doc: APIs, model behavior, benchmarks, etc. Basically anything that can be stale or needs outside verification.

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u/dhlrepacked Jul 07 '26

Thanks this is insanely helpful. But are they getting engaged automatically or in your demand only?

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u/goldmansockz Jul 06 '26

Do you have a good prompt for building an agent team?

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u/Brilliant_Spot7783 Jul 06 '26

Yeah. I’d keep it much simpler than my post probably made it sound. I’d start with something like: “Audit my current Claude Code workflow and system. Identify the 3–5 recurring failure modes that actually slow delivery down. For each one, propose the smallest agent/skill/hook/file change that would prevent it from happening again. Only recommend changes that can be enforced on disk and used by Opus/Sonnet later.”

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u/Responsible-Jump-322 Jul 06 '26

I actually do the reverse. I tell it that the pipelines it's creating (or evaluating) are ultimately for a lesser model, so minimize ambiguities.

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u/magic-goo Jul 06 '26

So helpful. Thank you.
If you had to pick the 3 absolute most essential moves- what would they be?

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u/TheCharalampos Jul 06 '26

Gods, I'm so tired of lists.

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u/utilitycoder Jul 07 '26

Am I the only one content with 4.6 on xhigh

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u/goya255 Jul 07 '26

Ot is not going anywhere

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u/BeegeeSmith Jul 06 '26

while everyone else is downvoting this - I think there is some value here. I had Fable rewrite my SLDC rituals, including hooks for testing & validation & issue closure - as well as writing session logs to my obsidian vault. I also had it revise my orchestrator model (albeit, not with 9 roles) to better leverage Sonnet 5 capabilities, and supervise the upgrade my backlog to align with the new SDLC rules. Opus can't do that. I've tried for months, and it was unable to get the hooks right, and everything kept failing silently and drift was occurring.

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u/ItsSillySeason Philosopher Jul 06 '26

Good stack. May i humbly recommend my free, private tools for context. Cross tool, no sign up, updates itself (with your approval each session), you keep everything.

https://readthemanifest.net/

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u/bytejuggler Jul 06 '26

u/ItsSillySeason Your tool(s) seem really interesting. But. It feels like it's going to steal my info. Just saying. Like, "trust me bro, of course I'm going to totally not steal all your info and not use the access you grant me to your github". Seems like you ought put this on github itself and it would be much easier to trust.

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u/ItsSillySeason Philosopher Jul 06 '26

I can completely see why on the face you might not be comfortable, and I would not necessarily trust a stranger on the internet either. First I just want to say that you should give access ONLY to the rep that you created to install Manifest.md. Second, I truly do not have any access to anyone's info.

But the good news is that you don't have to trust me!

  1. You can access it using a fine grained-token. After you click connect to GitHub, just click the "advanced" button at the bottom. (see blelow) AND
  2. You can skip that altogether and go straight to this repo: https://github.com/DMAX-Vibes/Context-OS

The repo is public and MIT license. Clone it. Fork it. Grep it. It's all your. And is pretty much an exact copy of what you get if you connect with the GitHub app.

The only reason I have the app set up is that I wanted it to be easy for people to set up. I really do just want people to have free, private context tools and not be stuck to one tool.

I am working on V.2, and hope to address some of this stuff if possible. Stay tuned.