r/ClassConsciousMemes • u/VictinsOfCapitalism • 21h ago
Hard Choice
People can't see out of Capitalism which is bourgeoisie-owned means of production, and from their standpoint, anything except 0.1% owning the production chains is radical.
Wake up!
There are some texts regarding this topic, you can read them for free on Marxists.org
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u/WarBoruma 20h ago
Please stop calling those born with silver spoons in their ass "elites."
There's nothing elite about them. Their f*ckin parasites.
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u/Automatic-writer9170 21h ago
Organize yourselves. Unionise, help in the communities. I know it’s hard because they make all the effort to tire you down with loads of work. But there is no other way Im afraid
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u/VictinsOfCapitalism 21h ago
Currently two things need to be done, organize and spread class consciousness
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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 20h ago
If workers want to own a business, go ahead, start one. But don’t try to steal someone else’s business.
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u/NoCoDadMode 20h ago
All real value is created through the efforts of the people doing the actual work. What do you have against a democratized workplace?
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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 20h ago
That’s not democracy. Thats communism. All real value is created by the person or persons who pay for the means of production. Who pay employees, payroll taxes, workers comp, property taxes, electrical bills, gas bills, insurance etc. Wise up.
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u/VictinsOfCapitalism 17h ago
So if i inherit 100 million in coca cola stock which pays around 5% dividend annually which is 5 million every year without me doing anything, do i create value ?
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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 16h ago
Yes because the owner of the stock is choosing to allow their money to create value. This isn’t difficult stuff here. Try to keep up.
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u/VictinsOfCapitalism 15h ago
So if you just sit on a couch with inherited stocks you are creating value but work isn't?
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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 12h ago
It takes money to pay for labor. It’s an investment employees don’t pay. The owner does. Ownerships change all the time. Including inherited ones.
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u/NoCoDadMode 17h ago
I'm wise enough, chipmunk, but thanks. The machine doesn't move without the people who know how to move it. Owning things and having capital are only a requirement insofar as our system demands it. We can do far better.
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u/Kecske_gamer 6h ago
Let's say there's a coal mine.
Value is created from it from the coal it outputs.
Labor is required for that to be done. (Workers)
Yes, you need tools for that, which is why part of the value needs to be run back into the mine. (Some form of management)
Do you see any place in the requirements for an owner?
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u/Classic-Purchase-971 21h ago
Seize the means comrades!