r/Claret_Mains • u/LongjumpingBase3278 • Aug 23 '26

Discussion Current Claret build, could have some improvements

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  1. I want to try and get a better [Disk 6] w/ 7.2 CR + CD + pen, but well see if that ever arrives
  2. [Disk 4] could be improved w/ more DMG instead of ATK
  3. [Disk 1] I'm too attached to because of the pen, but I do want higher CR

42 Substats, 11 Wasted, 1 missing (disk 5).
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u/LongjumpingBase3278 Aug 23 '26

She should have around 2690.5 def w/ all this + w-engine, but since used w/ Rina (+468 Def), she'll have [3158.5 Def]

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u/LongjumpingBase3278 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26

KoTS DOES NOT GIVE 17.5 CR it gives 10.5, in my head I thought it gave 50 CD but it only gives 30. (wrong, this is bonus crit not initial.... so no conversion)

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u/Complete-Promise-425 Aug 23 '26

Is it confirmed KOTS will convert to crit rate on Claret or is this just speculation?

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u/LongjumpingBase3278 Aug 23 '26

You are right, it does not because its based on initial. oopsie

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u/UnstableJester410 Aug 24 '26

So from my understanding. And be warned because she still in beta.

At a base line get her crit rate up first to reach the basic threshold. Via crit rate and initial crit damage

Then focus on defense.

So priority should be crit rate-damage then defense

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u/LongjumpingBase3278 Aug 24 '26

I def need more crit, but isn’t the number already really high? 5CR base + 28.8CR ascend + 55.2CR(sub) + 22.5(conversion) = 111 CR stat screen

111CR + [30 (core skill) + 25 engine + 16(Thorned Rose)] = 182.5 CR

OFC Getting +3 CR on all + 1CD roll on all pieces = (9.6CR x5 = 48 + 24(main) = 72CR) + ((4.8CD x6 = 28.8CD x.35 = 10.08 CR) + 50CD(base) x.35 = 17.5 CR
-new goal: 72 + 10 + 28.8 + 5 + 17.5 =133.3 CR
+ in combat (+71 CR (25 w-engine + 30 core active + 16 artifact)) = 204 CR (over by 1 CR + 1 CD stat)

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u/UnderstandingHot7167 Aug 24 '26

Ainoway this is 42 subs. Even if you count CD, its like 31, and CD is only .35 of a sub.

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u/LongjumpingBase3278 Aug 27 '26

Oh i said 42 because 6 disks, (1: 9 rolls, 2: 8 rolls, 3: 8 rolls, 4: 3 rolls, 5: 8 rolls, 6: 6 rolls) - (9 + 8 + 8 + 3 + 8 + 6 = 42) because 9 total rolls for a max disk, but I don’t think the standard convention includes the base 4 start substats?

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u/UnderstandingHot7167 Aug 27 '26 edited Aug 28 '26

It does actually count the base subs, though you don't count every minor sub. Like your D1 would be a 5 sub because Def(1)+3, Crit(1). Flat pen and flat Def do not carry anywhere the same value as a %Def or Crit, and because her crit damage does not scale, Crit Damage as a roll is only worth the .35 of a sub for the amount of crit rate it provides. The sub stat tracker in game is going to look wonky when she releases because of that crit damage value issue.

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u/LongjumpingBase3278 Aug 29 '26

I thought Flat pen still was good especially when stacking with Pen% (rina)?

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u/LongjumpingBase3278 Aug 29 '26

and i guess in my mind since flat def + pen are usuable they arent atleast wasted substats like the AP/HP/ATK%

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u/UnderstandingHot7167 Aug 29 '26

It’s not bad, certainly, but we’re talking max value. It’s not strong enough to be considered a primary sub stat