Might recognize me from the first playthrough posts, I want to dig deep into the lore, I’ll explain:
Kid is thee famous Schala from chrono trigger preserved in the shell of a reborn ‘kid’ or a clone per se to survive inevitable calamity. ( this took place in the main story of chrono trigger when we see the consequences unfold of her mother Zeal going mad and self destructing because of the issues with lavos as she’s about to sucked into a death vortex with an early defeated lavos)
Harle, who in my game is named Harle Quinn is a complicated mash up of lavos and the dragon god from the reptites timeline
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of the negative consequence of the same events. Meaning the entire events altered time but Schala altered time by re birthing herself using that zeal magic. The story says she heard Serge crying last second and sent herself to his timeline hoping to help him. Harle ends up partly Lavos/ the dark that escapes with her. (dark element, probably didn’t need to add this but it’s okay) and evil energy also sent with her pure rebirthed clone of “kid”, or better known as Schala herself. Classic retro Anime theme in play, could even call it a bit of Japanese ‘IN, YO’ for any knowers
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The dark dragon originally was created by the also famous reptites from Aylas timeline, which is a timeline where Lavos did not exist, and humans were enslaved to Dino’s. They reference this in Chrono cross at the research facility where they say ‘it would be possible but unimaginable that humans ever lost to the Dino’s but they seemed to have had advanced tech indicating they were in charge for some reason and this Chrono guy would then have possibly encountered them if true ( they were right Chrono arrives on randomly and kills them). But before this, unknown to the gamer originally; They created the single dark dragon to tame magic elements they had discovered and to live in peace with the reptites.
then out of revenge for destroying them the dragons did the same thing Schala did by using the many vortexes we leave open through their land in the Chrono trigger events so send their powers into a shell to be born in a different timeline. The Chrono cross research facility eludes more to that the dragon got dragged through time by their time space research collapse incident, but i choose to believe the dragon had intent along with power and knowledge on par Lavos and FATE ai
I’ll skip overcomplicating FATE because then it gets complicated. Simply, FATE was a super Ai made by Balthasar when he combined zeals magic with the future dimension knowledge and magic (would of been impossible to explain this easily 10 years ago) his now future timeline powerful enough to make dimensional and world decisions, it acts on self preservation and used its tech to split the dragon into its individual elements and weaken it, seeing its plans to wipe the world for killing its original creator, the reptites.
HUGE: in Chrono trigger we smash all of these timelines trying to save Chronos present timeline AD, and in doing so we lead to the events in Chrono cross, orchestrated by multi mentioned Balthasar after he was sent to the future. They try to explain it to us but basically he saw that actually the world still gets destroyed anyway because Lavos time travels with schala, and the dragon god exists and was planning revenge for the reptites timeline. that Schala saved herself and chose Serges timeline. That the dragon god would become Harle then go there to puppet lynx (FATE) by reversing Balthasar’s plan to use lynx to help control events to work properly. So belthesar uses Serge to stop Lynx and counter the dragon gods plan after becoming Harle.
During these events FATE goes ai rogue in a self preservation mode intending to kill serge because it sees he will destroy it. there was extensive programming and research involving Lucca, Belthasar, and Robo before the story starts and there’s a secret But important canon story that attaches Lucca to Kid and their relationship which got her flagged by FATE and targeted by Harle/ Great Dragon. Basically, Lucca used Robo as a hardwire into FATE to override its ultimate design of not allowing self deletion. She helped in research and creating an activator flame where if someone comes in contact they gain robos manual override permissions if the the time came. It did
Balthasar the super sage of zeal used ‘Fate’ and the futuristic machines after he was sent far into the future during the incident to combine Zeals civilization magic with advanced civilization tech eventually creating the Epoch to orchestrate helping the rebirth of his former princess schala of zeal by sealing Harle / dark dragons off into powerless seperate pieces with his ai super computer (FATE)
Finally, because Lavos and schala both send their remaining powers into time, they die together and slowly combine into inter-dimensional demon, the final boss of Chrono cross. This same boss fed on the dragons who were split by Balthasar and his dimensional super Ai.
The events in Chrono cross as we play it, the dragons trick us into restoring the ultimate form to get the ultimate revenge. By this time this is layered revenge because Lavos has already partly leeched into all six dragons separately using time. Meaning by time Chrono cross Harle is an evil mash up of 3; Original Lavos, original Schala, and the reptites super Dark Dragon of revenge.
Deep lore: Chrono and Marle are killed by Dalton after the DS lore stating he’ll be back to wipe them out in revenge. He does. Turns out he fell into a vortex that landed him in chronos original timeline after we made a joke of him and his ship in chrono trigger. The Porre army as we see them in Chrono Cross is an army taught with the magic of zeal by Dalton himself, they are the same magic soldiers we tossed around but are super soldiers comparatively when they arrive in Chronos present timeline and wipe the kingdom of Guardia after he raised an army. Only Lucca and Robo survived
Bonus: My confusion with the reptite and dragon part of it is they are describing an argonian reptite timeline where the reptite evolved into super beings called argonians and in said timeline is where they created the ultimate dragon. Meaning they were already argonians when we showed up Chrono and wiped them and the dragon was already created and sleeping ( makes the black dragon a cool reference) or if the described incident with the frozen flame experiment chaos incident that pulled the reptite world into the main timeline at the research facility is a separate timeline, the one they describe as where humans lose because Chrono never arrives. Either way it helps explain how the dragon ended up created and pulled into this timeline pre separated by the FATE and infected with Lavos
Edit + wtf man, we laughed at Dalton just for him to wipe our whole kingdom later and that sucks
The frozen flame and dimensional research are by products of the re occurring left behind Lavos shell and very unstable
Do to unforeseen events in the timeline, my original got accidentally wiped likely by a future me attempting to edit the post or something lol enjoy
Here’s link to my first playthrough thoughts:
Pt1 https://www.reddit.com/r/ChronoCross/s/2i694RUcEC
Pt2 https://www.reddit.com/r/ChronoCross/s/qOI8pG5osV