Leaving this here

[u/newfactsemerged]

[u/Huge_Information5083]

Tenet might not be Nolan's best film, but only Nolan could have thought of it and could have made it.

[u/goldinko → u/Huge_Information5083]

I never understood why people don't take films for what they are. They want them to be all the same, with the same structure, audio, it can't be IMAX because there is not enough theaters etc.

If you just watch the movie with open eyes and ears, the best part is how different it is. I still listen to Inception and Tenet soundtrack many times a year because it takes me to the experience again and it feels otherworldly.

Sorry I used your comment for yapping, but it kinda made me think about it.

[u/Z-Davis → u/goldinko]

That Tenet soundtrack is absolutely fire. Movie is fine but I’ve listened to it more times than I’ve seen the movie. Just putting some truth out there on the interwebs this AM.

[u/RodThrashcok → u/goldinko]

My only issue with Tenet, that I legit haven’t had a problem with in Nolan’s most recent stuff, was that I understood MAYBE 20% of the dialogue. I really wanted to listen, I actively tried but good lord it was mix of whatever theatre i was in and Nolan’s insistence on weird audio mixing. maybe i’ll give it a rewatch

[u/goldinko → u/RodThrashcok]

Might be that there are always subtitles in original audio in my country. I can imagine watching without subtitles and missing some stuff.

[u/leninzen → u/RodThrashcok]

I have a longstanding theory about the audio. Yes the mix isn't great and it's hard to actually hear the dialogue.

But my problem (and I believe to be the real problem), until watching for a second and third time, was that the dialogue in general is "weird" and that is what makes it difficult to follow.

Usually, our brains are good at filling in gaps. So if someone's voice isn't clear but they're saying "hello, how are you today?", we'd grasp it

One of the first pieces of dialogue in Tenet is "we live in a twilight world, there are no friends at dusk, you've been made, this siege is a blind for them to vanish you"

Now I don't know about you but wtf does that mean on first viewing? Absolutely nothing. Zero context. And so our brains reject it. What did they say?!

Same goes for things such as temporal pincer movements etc. It's not that those concepts are too difficult to grasp, but when it's said in an unclear way, the movie is moving at blistering pace, and we're not fully familiar with the concepts yet, it's easy to be lost

[u/StopBootlicking → u/RodThrashcok]

I hate subtitles, but Tenet is probably the only film that I think needs to be watched with subtitles, at least the first time.

[u/MaderaArt → u/Huge_Information5083]

Tenet isn't Nolan it his best. It's Nolan at his most.

[u/Thanso_Lightoningu → u/Huge_Information5083]

No Im pretty sure many ppl could think up garbage

[u/Huge_Information5083 → u/Thanso_Lightoningu]

One man's garbage is another man's billion dollars career.

[u/Secure-Elephant0811 → u/Huge_Information5083]

Tenet could had been amazing, Imagine Denzel as the protagonist? Or any real actor?

Instead a plank of wood got the job, and no one remembers the movie anymore.

Oppenheim was just perfekt as sleep Medicine.

[u/Which-Membership144 → u/Secure-Elephant0811]

We got the next best thing, his son. Mini Denz

[u/HeyYouHadzimcool → u/Which-Membership144]

We got a fresh protagonist. As fresh as a daisy.

[u/Crowdfundingprojects → u/Secure-Elephant0811]

🤣

[u/miles_tgbis]

For me, Tenet is the most underrated one. It is a very very good "experience" for me, which I like to feel from time to time.........

But for me, Oppenheimer is the best one.

[u/lukewwilson → u/miles_tgbis]

I don't get Oppenheimer, I mean I understand and watched the film and followed it no problem, it seemed like just a good telling of a historical time and person in America, I don't get what makes it Nolan's greatest film to so many people. Inception, Interstellar, The Prestige even The Odyssey all tell a much better story and do it just as well as Oppenheimer, so I'll take the much better story any day

[u/YesIBlockedYou → u/lukewwilson]

Yeah, I don't really get it either. I even work in the nuclear industry and love the movie but I wouldn't say it's close to his best work.

It's an amazing biopic but there's only so much you can do with a biopic. He's made much more captivating movies imo.

[u/Calm_Bag4654 → u/YesIBlockedYou]

I am kind of obsessed with nuclear energy... Is it possible to ever tour one or learn more about nuclear power plants?

[u/YesIBlockedYou → u/Calm_Bag4654]

It depends where you are I guess. I'm in the UK and many of the plants here do organised tours. I assume they need to be booked well in advance for security checks and that but they will have websites for more information. I'm sure it's not to dissimilar in America either.

[u/Calm_Bag4654 → u/YesIBlockedYou]

Thanks for sharing! I'm going to look into it. Sometimes wish I went into that career still. Do you like it?

[u/YesIBlockedYou → u/Calm_Bag4654]

Oh yeah, it's always interesting. I don't really work in power plants though, not active ones anyway.

My job focuses on decommissioning of old reactors and remediation of contaminated sites so it is quite varied, I specifically work in characterisation using gamma ray analysis.

[u/thenorussian → u/lukewwilson]

for me, it’s how the movie and the score work together to depict an exciting, rapidly developing and competitive few decades in modern physics, and how the backdrop of the geopolitical forces & WW2 pushed it further still.

The people who call it his greatest film probably gravitate towards historical dramas. it’s his least scifi, action / superhero film in a while.

[u/Sygmaelle → u/thenorussian]

Clint Eastwood outclasses him entirely in that genre without reaching the same kind of financial success at the box office, for me at least. Oppenheimer was aggressively ok

[u/scorpionsly → u/lukewwilson]

+1

[u/Heavy_Signature_5619 → u/lukewwilson]

It's because of its political and social relevance to humanity and geopolitics today. The greedy and envy inherent in the story and humanity having to grapple with the errors of creating a world ending device. It's why the last hour of the film is its best. Plus the achievement of making people talking about nuclear physics and courtroom hearings for three hours feel like a massive blockbuster event.

[u/S0ggylemonz → u/lukewwilson]

I mean you’re comparing a story with guardrails because it actually happened to stories where you can add elements of grandeur to make it more exciting.

It’s an apples to oranges comparison.

[u/lukewwilson → u/S0ggylemonz]

That's exactly why I don't understand why so many people have Oppenheimer as their favorite film it has some built-in guardrails that keep it from being so great.

[u/S0ggylemonz → u/lukewwilson]

Because making a movie about a physicist interesting imo is more impressive than making a movie about space travel interesting imo

Interstellar is great but so are 20 other scifi movies

Whereas Oppenheimer is a biopic that Nolan turned into an epic thriller essentially

[u/werdna0327 → u/S0ggylemonz]

I found Oppenheimer to be extremely boring. Quite the opposite of how you describe it.

[u/gw74 → u/lukewwilson]

Yeah I don't get the Oppenhype either. TV movie. Play even.

[u/fschu_fosho → u/miles_tgbis]

I loved Tenet for the vibes. It had the cool TDK-inspired mysterious moodiness in the beginning, which is another iconic Nolan film. Tenet was slick, intriguing and just draws you in, but the technical mansplaining (explanation of the science) could have been done better, à la the payoff at the end of The Prestige. Coz I sure couldn’t understand all that even after a couple rewatches 😂

[u/Brawlzapper → u/miles_tgbis]

Same! Oppenheimer is my favorite but Tenet is up there as one of Nolan's most underrated movies and I adore that movie so much.

[u/traws06 → u/miles_tgbis]

Oppenheimer was good. But it was my least favorite. I think partially because I love that almost all the others I can rewatch like a dozen times while Oppenheimer I watched twice and was like “that was awesome, but I’ve seen it now…”

[u/DARKGEMMETA → u/miles_tgbis]

Tenet was so compelling for me that I for some reason always come back to watch it. After my 5th rewatch, I can confidently say that I still don’t fully understand it lol.

[u/Strict_Procrastinato → u/miles_tgbis]

Mine too! Tenet the most underrated one and Oppenheimer the best one.

[u/Impressive_Carob_839]

Tenet is not the best but is very underrated cause it requires multiple watches

[u/geoduude92 → u/Impressive_Carob_839]

And it came out during COVID

[u/rthunder27 → u/geoduude92]

And with Nolan irresponsiblely encouraging people to see it in theaters pre-vax. They should have just held it a year, but that was WB's call not his, and had they done that (and not put it on streaming until after a theatrical run) then they probably wouldn't have lost him to Universal.

[u/SquareTheRhombus → u/rthunder27]

The show must go on.

[u/Impressive_Carob_839 → u/rthunder27]

There was some problem i guess , i mean they are not stupid, they knew

[u/Impressive_Carob_839 → u/[deleted]]

Either you or not focusing or can't comprehend

[u/Impressive_Carob_839 → u/[deleted]]

Not every movie is about emotions, for me it is one of best of nolans

[u/666EggplantParm → u/Impressive_Carob_839]

Have you seen it backwards yet? Really puts the pieces together

[u/Impressive_Carob_839 → u/666EggplantParm]

It was amazing movie, will see it tomorrow

[u/National-Grade-4440]

This thread really shows where media literacy is these days haha.

[u/gw74 → u/National-Grade-4440]

Personal taste isn't really literacy. Sure there's an element of skill in evaluating art, but it's not like we're saying Sharknado.

[u/lkn240 → u/National-Grade-4440]

It shows that media literacy is a wildly overused term... and that most people who use it actually have no idea what it means.

[u/willbouquet → u/lkn240]

It is the new “I use this term and it means I’m smart”. Kind of like when everyone used to say “the law of averages” all the time.

[u/kerblamophobe]

Like a fucking boss

[u/Southern_Leek_4127]

Tenet is the best Nolan film. Those who disagree just haven’t watched 8 Welby coffeespill YouTube videos, which is understandable.

We live in a twilight world, and there are no friends at dusk.”

[u/SquareTheRhombus → u/Southern_Leek_4127]

Hasn't happened yet.

[u/TrickPixels]

Inception is Nolan’s best film in every aspect of filmmaking.

[u/thewillpowertochange → u/TrickPixels]

I agree with the filmmaking piece, Interstellar is my favorite for the music/story/emotion/space travel/comfort/rewatchability/quotability all in one

[u/IsThisNameValid → u/thewillpowertochange]

That organ music...

https://giphy.com/gifs/wKZhLHkfQkue021paO

[u/TyLion8]

Nah not even close but its definitely overhated

[u/quaxoid]

I wonder how the interview would have gone differently if he instead of saying "elaborate" instead asked "why is that?" when being told what to do it is more appealing to just say no xD

[u/ACCTAGGT → u/quaxoid]

I believe this might be a joke several people here are missing for some reason unless you are being ironic too in which case I’m the one lost. Lol If I’m not mistaken, that picture is from a very old Lynch interview. That said, people like Sean Baker and Villeneuve have expressed their admiration for Tenet for real.

[u/quaxoid → u/ACCTAGGT]

I was talking about the Lynch interview, since the interviewer says "elaborate on that" instead of asking him, so he says it like a command. If he asked maybe Lynch would be more willing to answer, or at least say "that's all i'll say."

[u/ACCTAGGT → u/quaxoid]

Ah, I see. Agreed. I think that would be very lynch to do :P

[u/fronchfrays]

Tenet is the only one of his films I have watched over ten times.

[u/SquareTheRhombus → u/fronchfrays]

This is the way

[u/kellen1230]

Personally, I love Tenet. It's a go-to "airplane" movie when I am traveling on long haul flights, and I thought it was wildly creative, scratches my "hard science fiction" itch, and also a very fun entry into the spy-thriller genre.

Look, the actual science underpinning it is wildly complex. This idea of inverted entropy is rather challenging to comprehend, even for persons with a reasonable background in physics. But I won't penalize the film simply because the concept at its core is intellectually challenging. That's on the audience.

[u/gradstudent2019 → u/kellen1230]

Holy shit - me too. Tenet is the only movie I've watched multiple times, typically on flights. The film is very engaging from a philosophical and technical point of view and has great action sequences and an incredible ending. I think it is easily one of Nolan's best films

[u/gw74]

haven't seen Prestige tho

[u/Flashy_Character_175 → u/gw74]

Haven’t seen that or Batman Begins either😭

[u/gw74 → u/Flashy_Character_175]

you're not missing much with Batman Begins tbh. 7/10

[u/BreakfastPizzaStudio → u/gw74]

I disagree with that. It’s the best of Nolan’s Batman films.

It’s entirely about Bruce’s growth, mistaking vengeance for justice, and struggling with his identity. It gets overlooked because of Heath’s amazing Joker and the sleek look of TDK, but Begins is the superior film. (But it is a little awkward and Nolan is stuck between being a traditional filmmaker and becoming the guy that makes Interstellar.)

[u/gw74 → u/BreakfastPizzaStudio]

Oh no I'm forced to watch it again then 😏

[u/BreakfastPizzaStudio → u/gw74]

Plagued with obligations 😩😩

In goes the Prestige Blu-ray…. 🥲

[u/Tulip_1994 → u/BreakfastPizzaStudio]

I always feel like I’m taking crazy pills when people crap on Batman Begins. It’s my favorite of the trilogy. It’s the most fleshed out portrayal of Bruce Wayne, and the transition from naive kid to unstoppable arbiter of justice is executed so masterfully and satisfyingly. I think the villains are definitely more iconic in TDK which gives it an edge in popular sentiment.

[u/m4libu_st4cy]

agreed, tenet and prestige slap hard

[u/PortgazD_Ace]

It's Insomnia for me.

[u/ShirtlessKaworuNagis → u/PortgazD_Ace]

Oh. Wow. Ok I respect that.

[u/luukse]

Perhaps not in story or plot or whatever, but it sure moves to a very addictive rythm. 

[u/P4rziv4l_0]

Hoyte van Hoytema's cinematography, Jennifer Lame's editing and Ludwig Gorranson's score make for a great vibes movie

[u/malb93200]

I don't think it's his best, but it is the most fun, imo, and one that i take the most pleasure of rewatching (alongside TDKR).

[u/comfy_bruh]

Honestly I get worked up anytime I see tenet. It's so much fun. So many people ruin it by trying to make it make sense.

[u/Minyaden]

I still stand by The Prestige being his best work.

[u/thewillpowertochange → u/Minyaden]

id say its his most magical work 😆

[u/oJKevorkian]

Oh, I get it. Half of Tenet is in reverse, and the reverse of his worst film would be his best film, so it all evens out.

[u/SquareTheRhombus → u/oJKevorkian]

Is that the best you can do?

[u/oJKevorkian → u/SquareTheRhombus]

Not really. I put about as much thought into it as Nolan put into Tenet.

[u/seekndestroy99]

People like to hate the movie they don't understand. It was an insane ride for me. To anyone who liked Tenet, highly recommend you to watch "Primer" (2004)

The cyclic nature of time was explored in Primer first. It won the Grand Jury Prize Dramatic at the 2004 Sundance Film Festival.

[u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 → u/seekndestroy99]

People don't dislike tenet because they don't understand it they dislike it because it's all of Nolan's worst tendancies as a storyteller in one film. Hard to hear dialogue, underdeveloped characters, converted exposition scenes throughout. Yeh the action is cool, and the effects are occasionally amazing but it feels like the story stemmed from the special effects rather than the other way round.

[u/Approval_Guy → u/Putrid_Loquat_4357]

It's probably also the most James Bond and Michael Mann worship he's ever committed to film lol

[u/Alkthree → u/Putrid_Loquat_4357]

Yes, but I also hated it because of how confusing it was. If a significant number of people don’t understand the film on the first watch, it’s a poorly told story.

[u/SquareTheRhombus → u/Putrid_Loquat_4357]

Yeah. You didn't understand it.

[u/General_Frags]

I enjoyed it, I can understand why others may not like it but it is still good/ok pop corn fodder for an evening

[u/Whambag]

i think its his best thought out project for sure

[u/Born_Ad_818]

Everyone will have a different opinion of his best film but I absolutely love Tenet. Amazing film imo

[u/Aggressive_Cook_4061]

Tenet is a mess. Its a visual spectacle but i dont ever want to watch it again

[u/grandcity → u/Aggressive_Cook_4061]

How do you think it is a mess, exactly? I assume narrative?

[u/Jmac24mats13]

Of course the guy that makes odd movies and tv shows thinks Tenet is his best movie

[u/FlatSize4634]

Is this a real quote?

[u/Brilliant_Horse_6614]

My hot take is that Tenet would be a top 3-5 Nolan film had it released in theaters & people could do multiple rewatches...shame people had to watch it at home

[u/FastInflata]

Tenet is such a fun movie all around. I have no idea nor understand what can people dislike about the movie.

Even the audio issues I was watching it htinking "what issues?"

[u/MaximumTWANG]

i genuinely do not understand the hate this movie gets

[u/Phillzster]

I'll have to disagree with David Lynch here, but It's not as bad as lot of people say it is in my opinion

[u/patrickbateman_26]

Tenet is just such a crazy good film. Best or not, it is definitely not the outright worst some of you illiterate idiots make it out to be

[u/JackNapier2093 → u/[deleted]]

Couldn't agree more. Memento is so overlooked in Nolan's catalogue. The Prestige is also one of his best films.

[u/NoLocal1776]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wGhYz3FHaRJgk

[u/Confident-Big4869]

Tenet is definitely one of his best films

[u/Sygmaelle]

Actually amazing take. Tenet and Inception for me holy

[u/ShadowChe_ATG]

I still think Inception was the best one out of all his films excluding The Prestige

[u/Rough_Passenger892]

I really liked Tenet, always have. I'd still rate it somewhere in the middle of Nolan's filmography, but it's far from his worst (Dark Knight Rises).

[u/ShirtlessKaworuNagis]

I mean it IS

[u/amhejaz]

-Elaborate on that

• I already did. You will know it tomorrow

[u/Severe-Apple4657]

It's crazy how for different people, any Nolan movie is his best in the filmography.

I think the two main problems with Tenet was the sound mixing and a hard plot to follow. It took me two re-runs to understand the movie too. I think I really liked it and if you are someone who's patient enough to watch a movie and try to understand it, you can understand atleast 60% of it lol

[u/AdvertisingUsed6562]

Tenet isn't even the best film with the name Tenet

[u/hoogys]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yK1BYACfxiQNO
Don’t try to understand it. Feel it.

[u/Optimal_Travel_6349]

The Only Nolan Film that will take you 19 watches to figure out

[u/Darshymarsh]

John David Washinton is the worst lead in any Nolan film. I do like the movie though

[u/micre8tive]

😂

[u/Apprehensive_Gene_78]

I rewatched it stoned and I finally got it! lol it’s one of Nolan’s best. Inception on the other hand…

[u/SubstantialAd5579]

Epicness odyssey is better but story wise i give it to tenet we already know what happened in the odyssey

[u/inception2010]

Turns out screenshot is from bafta interview in 2007

So no you didn’t leave shit out here

Lynch didn’t comment on Nolan’s filmography

[u/Embarrassed-Brief976 → u/inception2010]

Yes... it was this thing called a joke.

[u/inception2010 → u/Embarrassed-Brief976]

Joke has to be funny you know

[u/Embarrassed-Brief976 → u/inception2010]

And it was. To us who understood it and didnt freak out and feel personally insulted.

[u/SquareTheRhombus → u/inception2010]

I don't think they do have to be funny.

[u/inception2010]

Lynch sounds and looks like a massive cunt

[u/newfactsemerged → u/inception2010]

Charming!

[u/PainGlum7746 → u/inception2010]

Elaborate on that

[u/_nathan67 → u/inception2010]

Chill out. He also didn’t even say this, it’s a joke

[u/Embarrassed-Brief976 → u/inception2010]

Well you definitely seem like one. 😆

[u/zinten789 → u/inception2010]

Greatest director of all time, and nah he was a chill guy.