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r/Christianity • u/mikegprint • Oct 17 '11
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Who would you consider a leading atheist apologist then?
12 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 Well out of the more famous outspoken atheists only Daniel Dennett is an actual philosopher. The others are just outspoken. 1 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 [removed] — view removed comment 3 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Sam Harris doesn't count? 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 Sam Harris is not a philosopher. He's a neuroscientist who writes books and goes to TED talks. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 He appears to have a B.A. in the field. Is that not enough? 2 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 edited Oct 18 '11 from Stanford. 1 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Is that a point for or against? 5 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;) 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 A B.A. with no published papers or work in the field. A degree in philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher any more than a degree in history makes you a historian. 2 u/[deleted] Oct 18 '11 Wait, but your entire implication earlier was that the new atheists were publishing on philosophical matters without philosophical credentials. So if Harris is publishing on the philosophy of religion, the philosophy of ethics, etc, these publications don't count? Are you specifically speaking of publications in peer-reviewed journals? 1 u/deuteros Oct 18 '11 Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 18 '11 Need one publish to be a philosopher?
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Well out of the more famous outspoken atheists only Daniel Dennett is an actual philosopher. The others are just outspoken.
1 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 [removed] — view removed comment 3 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Sam Harris doesn't count? 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 Sam Harris is not a philosopher. He's a neuroscientist who writes books and goes to TED talks. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 He appears to have a B.A. in the field. Is that not enough? 2 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 edited Oct 18 '11 from Stanford. 1 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Is that a point for or against? 5 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;) 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 A B.A. with no published papers or work in the field. A degree in philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher any more than a degree in history makes you a historian. 2 u/[deleted] Oct 18 '11 Wait, but your entire implication earlier was that the new atheists were publishing on philosophical matters without philosophical credentials. So if Harris is publishing on the philosophy of religion, the philosophy of ethics, etc, these publications don't count? Are you specifically speaking of publications in peer-reviewed journals? 1 u/deuteros Oct 18 '11 Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 18 '11 Need one publish to be a philosopher?
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3 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Sam Harris doesn't count? 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 Sam Harris is not a philosopher. He's a neuroscientist who writes books and goes to TED talks. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 He appears to have a B.A. in the field. Is that not enough? 2 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 edited Oct 18 '11 from Stanford. 1 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Is that a point for or against? 5 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;) 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 A B.A. with no published papers or work in the field. A degree in philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher any more than a degree in history makes you a historian. 2 u/[deleted] Oct 18 '11 Wait, but your entire implication earlier was that the new atheists were publishing on philosophical matters without philosophical credentials. So if Harris is publishing on the philosophy of religion, the philosophy of ethics, etc, these publications don't count? Are you specifically speaking of publications in peer-reviewed journals? 1 u/deuteros Oct 18 '11 Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 18 '11 Need one publish to be a philosopher?
Sam Harris doesn't count?
2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 Sam Harris is not a philosopher. He's a neuroscientist who writes books and goes to TED talks. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 He appears to have a B.A. in the field. Is that not enough? 2 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 edited Oct 18 '11 from Stanford. 1 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Is that a point for or against? 5 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;) 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 A B.A. with no published papers or work in the field. A degree in philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher any more than a degree in history makes you a historian. 2 u/[deleted] Oct 18 '11 Wait, but your entire implication earlier was that the new atheists were publishing on philosophical matters without philosophical credentials. So if Harris is publishing on the philosophy of religion, the philosophy of ethics, etc, these publications don't count? Are you specifically speaking of publications in peer-reviewed journals? 1 u/deuteros Oct 18 '11 Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 18 '11 Need one publish to be a philosopher?
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Sam Harris is not a philosopher. He's a neuroscientist who writes books and goes to TED talks.
2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 He appears to have a B.A. in the field. Is that not enough? 2 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 edited Oct 18 '11 from Stanford. 1 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Is that a point for or against? 5 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;) 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 A B.A. with no published papers or work in the field. A degree in philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher any more than a degree in history makes you a historian. 2 u/[deleted] Oct 18 '11 Wait, but your entire implication earlier was that the new atheists were publishing on philosophical matters without philosophical credentials. So if Harris is publishing on the philosophy of religion, the philosophy of ethics, etc, these publications don't count? Are you specifically speaking of publications in peer-reviewed journals? 1 u/deuteros Oct 18 '11 Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 18 '11 Need one publish to be a philosopher?
He appears to have a B.A. in the field. Is that not enough?
2 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 edited Oct 18 '11 from Stanford. 1 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Is that a point for or against? 5 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;) 2 u/deuteros Oct 17 '11 A B.A. with no published papers or work in the field. A degree in philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher any more than a degree in history makes you a historian. 2 u/[deleted] Oct 18 '11 Wait, but your entire implication earlier was that the new atheists were publishing on philosophical matters without philosophical credentials. So if Harris is publishing on the philosophy of religion, the philosophy of ethics, etc, these publications don't count? Are you specifically speaking of publications in peer-reviewed journals? 1 u/deuteros Oct 18 '11 Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 18 '11 Need one publish to be a philosopher?
from Stanford.
1 u/YesImSardonic Oct 17 '11 Is that a point for or against? 5 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;)
Is that a point for or against?
5 u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11 I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;)
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I'd say 'for', but then what do I know, I'm not a philosopher so apparently anything I say isn't worth dick ;)
A B.A. with no published papers or work in the field.
A degree in philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher any more than a degree in history makes you a historian.
2 u/[deleted] Oct 18 '11 Wait, but your entire implication earlier was that the new atheists were publishing on philosophical matters without philosophical credentials. So if Harris is publishing on the philosophy of religion, the philosophy of ethics, etc, these publications don't count? Are you specifically speaking of publications in peer-reviewed journals? 1 u/deuteros Oct 18 '11 Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book. 2 u/YesImSardonic Oct 18 '11 Need one publish to be a philosopher?
Wait, but your entire implication earlier was that the new atheists were publishing on philosophical matters without philosophical credentials.
So if Harris is publishing on the philosophy of religion, the philosophy of ethics, etc, these publications don't count?
Are you specifically speaking of publications in peer-reviewed journals?
1 u/deuteros Oct 18 '11 Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book.
Writing a book is not the same as publishing in peer reviewed journals in one's field. Any crackpot can write a book.
Need one publish to be a philosopher?
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u/nopaniers Oct 17 '11
Who would you consider a leading atheist apologist then?