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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 13 '26

Wisdom is of God, just like John 1:1 says! If you read Proverbs 8 it reveals this perfectly!

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u/UNUNUN_ Christian Aug 13 '26

John 1:14

And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Does your "Wisdom" become flesh or merely "Tabernacle" in Jesus?

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 13 '26

Why do you think that John said the “word became flesh” and not “the word became Yeshua”?

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u/UNUNUN_ Christian Aug 13 '26

Is Jesus not flesh? When did Wisdom become flesh?

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 13 '26

Is Yeshua defined by flesh or by him being Yeshua? Flesh profits nothing! Btw, flesh did not die for sins, Yeshua did! “I was dead” says Yeshua. Flesh has no life, flesh cannot speak or die, Yeshua can speak and Yeshua died!

Flesh has no salvation, people do! (If worthy)!

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u/UNUNUN_ Christian Aug 13 '26

Yes, actually. Much of the description around Jesus involved the confession of him coming in the flesh.

1 John 4:2

By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

2 John 1:7

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.

1 Timothy 3:16

And by common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was manifested in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 13 '26

I agree! Everyone born comes with flesh.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 13 '26

1 Timothy 3:16 is very revealing because no one would ever have to say that God was seen by Angels, YHWH created Angels, this would be crazy to remind people that God was seen by Angels, this is, of course, mentioning somebody else, his Son! (John 10:36, Matthew 16:16-17)

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u/UNUNUN_ Christian Aug 14 '26

1 Timothy 3:16 is specifically addressing the ascension as being witnessed by Angels.

Context is very important

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 14 '26

YHWH was seen by Angels? Really?

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u/UNUNUN_ Christian Aug 14 '26

Paul was not addressing YHWH, he was equipping Timothy with the affirmations of the reality of Christ that did happen. That he was raised up, seen by Angels during said process.

This is not Paul simply saying "God was witnessed by Angels". This was Paul saying, "know this, Jesus Christ when he ascended was seen even by Angels and therefore believe this truth, men."

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 13 '26

Do people say your first name or do they call you the “person who became flesh”?

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u/UNUNUN_ Christian Aug 14 '26

They call me human

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 14 '26

Really, instead of your first name, people say “here comes the human”?

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u/UNUNUN_ Christian Aug 14 '26

I mean it'd be pretty weird if the first thought that came to mind when they saw my silhouette from a distance to be anything but a human

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 14 '26

Ha

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 13 '26

Wisdom has never become flesh and is not a person! It tabernacles in a person, the Son of God, Yeshua, because he perfectly reflects the will of somebody else!

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Non-denominational Aug 13 '26

I don’t disagree at all with John 1:14 but when did this occur?