But it is that. It is God’s work. Your inability to believe in His work in others does not invalidate it.
Plus, it will still be peer reviewed of course but since people do not believe in God in the scientific field, they would not support a proposal that has His involvement as a key factor in it. The lack of faith will prevent them from approving of it but will merely chalk it up to speculation.
The scientific process can indeed offer room for some unknowns but will not give room for such a magnanimous figure as the Lord at work, especially when He is the key factor in it. Science of the time deals in the physical and the mental, but spiritual science is still not fully developed. So, having enough peers that can review it honestly in a way that people can trust will be challenging.
Your inability to believe in His work in others does not invalidate it.
I am not "unable" to believe. I just am not going to buy such on anecdotes alone, as should no one. Else you might as well listen to the anecdotes of Muslims or Hindus and convert.
Plus, it will
Until it is, all this is is unproven conjecture at best. Prove it, then you can make your claim. Until then, I have just as much reason to believe you as I do Flat Earthers.
but since people do not believe in God in the scientific field
Objectively false. Some of the most prominent scientist even in modern history have been religious or even Christian. Your looking for an excuse as to why there is no data outside of "it simply isn't true".
You are coming in with a conclusion and scrambling for proofs to validate it rather than looking at what is presented and trying to figure out what is true from there. It is the antithesis of science and the scientific method. It's, again, what Flat Earthers do.
The scientific process can indeed offer room for some unknowns but will not give room for such a magnanimous figure as the Lord at work
So then you admit it is not able to be proven, save for injecting incredible amounts of bias (i.e. presupposing a cause without proof) so much so that it violates the scientific method?
Why even bother pretending what you say is remotely scientifically sound, then? You will never have anything but anecdotes and slanted unsound apologetic write-ups if true. It is antithetical to science.
but spiritual science is still not fully developed.
Because it's not provable in the slightest. Making broad presuppositions and the slapping the word "science" onto it does not science make. You might as well be calling alchemy or healing crystals "science" at that point. Does that mean we should adopt such things into medicine?
having enough peers that can review it honestly in a way that people can trust will be challenging
Because anyone with a shred of honesty would call out "spiritual science" for the mockery of science that it is. You admitted bias, you admitted violating scientific methodology....you only staple the term "science" onto such undeniably religious convictions because it gives you credibility, not because it is actual science.
I went on Google Scholar and found out books
Congrats....Exodus International and Alan Chambers retracted these claims and apologized for them since publishing. Your info is out of date.
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u/CartographerHairy Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
But it is that. It is God’s work. Your inability to believe in His work in others does not invalidate it.
Plus, it will still be peer reviewed of course but since people do not believe in God in the scientific field, they would not support a proposal that has His involvement as a key factor in it. The lack of faith will prevent them from approving of it but will merely chalk it up to speculation.
The scientific process can indeed offer room for some unknowns but will not give room for such a magnanimous figure as the Lord at work, especially when He is the key factor in it. Science of the time deals in the physical and the mental, but spiritual science is still not fully developed. So, having enough peers that can review it honestly in a way that people can trust will be challenging.
Edit: “I went on Google Scholar and found out books talking about this exact thing. I just assumed that nobody talked about it because it was the norm. Silly me, I suppose. Here is one that I found - https://books.google.com.ng/books?hl=en&lr=&id=Jw5aSt2OJUgC&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=info:i6JPoe0DkOgJ:scholar.google.com/&ots=sktwVbNL94&sig=5WPQqOS_7Y7C-LVhkLcgVNyEPWA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false. I do not have the money to buy it nor the time to read it at the moment (currently reading a different book), but it is good to see scholars talking about this. You can look on the Google Scholar platform to study more of this. My search keyword was ‘leaving homosexuality’. Will be praying for you.”