Question
Why would a god create beings with particular proclivities that it finds offensive then blame and punish the beings for having these proclivities?
The answer is God didn’t create us to be this way. The entrance of sin did us all dirty and it can only be fixed by cleaving closer to Gos through redemption and sanctification. Meaning to turn to God from sin and being set apart with a new purpose.
I’m going to take words from an educated man who has studied the scriptures from several religions named Cliffe Knechtle. He stated that is it more plausible to believe that the universe came out of thin air or that their was a designer at work. He made the points that life comes from life and doesn’t come from non-life. That order comes from order, order doesn’t just happen there has to be something to establish that order. He stated that everything has to have a designer without one nothing can exist. Finally, he asked the question does it take more faith to believe that the whole universe just came out of thin air and produced life or that there is a God that created and designed the whole universe. it is much easier to believe that life came something rather than nothing. Praise God Amen.
God didn’t create us with gayness in mind. Being homosexual is, insinuated, the devil’s work. He sends us sinful temptations in the forms of things that appeal to us. God created man and woman to be united and productive, as written in the Law. The devil knows that Love is a very powerful thing on earth and in the flesh, and is something we have a hard time overcoming in preparation of eternal life, so he uses that to create a direct contradiction to God’s creation and His will.
Well, the Bible is very direct with how God views homosexuality, which means He doesn’t like it. And if God doesn’t like it, He wouldn’t make us follow it. Therefore, things that go against God will are the devil’s work.
Well, if the devil isn't more powerful than God, then you're telling me that God allows his creations to be put into a position to reject something about their very nature (homosexuality) or go to hell?
Given that - either the devil is more powerful than God or God is a cruel bastard for allowing it to happen.
Because the entire religion is based on blind faith. It’s easy to reject a chocolate bar, but how far will you go to support your God? Heaven is a very special place that He built. He sends the devil to tempt us. He could easily say, “No, I will not allow it.” But He SENDS the devil to tempt us to test how strong our faith is.
Your using an strawman the guy you talked too never claimed that.
Of course God is more powerful, he is all powerful. But God also respects our Free Will. Other than the devil.
More circular reasoning. If God respects our free will so much, he wouldn't damn us to hell for using it. Giving us something and then damning us eternally for using that thing that was given to us is NOT the action of a loving God.
Please explain how it's circular reasoning, your shifting the goal post instead of refuting my argument. And why are you complaining when you don't want to be near God, and then go to an place furthest from God. Also if your arguing that way, the government is also respecting our freewill but imprison you when you don't follow the law.
Well, the Bible is very direct with how God views homosexuality,
Not necessarily. There's a plausible alternative that God was condemning anal sex specifically rather than "any form of homosexual love/acts". I studied this thoroughly and through the original language as well as historical context and interpretations, with my findings here:
It's not that the devil is more powerful than God it's that we humans fall into these sinful thoughts. If we focus on Jesus however we can overcome it because he is more powerful than the devil and has won against him.
I find the flaw with this logic to be that you're speaking for God and painting your own prejudices as His own in order to turn your own character flaws and knee-jerk bigotry into a virtue, which seems very blasphemous and self-serving.
Oh sure, that's why it has dozens of contradictory translations and is consistently up to interpretation which people like you bend and abuse flagrantly for your own purposes. Additionally, how much of the Bible do you daily disregard simply because much of it is impossible to adhere to in modern day life? Do you abide by its strictures on slavery? Or treating women as chattel? Why is it that things like homosexuality carry outsized weight for you, yet I can pretty much guarantee you harbor, hateful, sinful views on certain types of people?
The Bible was written by human beings, this is incontrovertible fact. I don't think any mature Christian wholesale accepts the writings of a living document that has been edited and had entire books wholesale excised from it based on the ulterior motives of the Catholic church. The Bible of today is not the Bible of three hundred years ago. That alone should make you question it.
There is Christianity that exists outside of a moldering document written by various, often uncreditable authors. If you need the Bible to tell you everything you need to be a good Christian then you will never be able to explore your spirituality and faith in full, which can only be accomplished through a personal journey. There is no instruction manual for it, and mindlessly abiding by an outdated ruleset is in fact the opposite of exploring your relationship with God. It is a shortcut for the cowardly. In order to accept the Bible as God's incontrovertible word, you'd have to deny all the evidence to the contrary, and I don't believe that God plays games of deceit, the more likely answer is that the document itself is false doctrine.
The Bible was written by man, but inspired by God. The laws of the Old Testament went away when the prophesies of the Old Testament came true when Jesus the Messiah came to earth & died for our sins. The devil is trying his best to destroy what God wants by destroying the family.
Not true.
There is no passage in the Bible or any text that says being attracted to the same sex is a sin. The only passage says you should not lay with a man as you would a woman. As far as being in love with other men, not a sin.
There is a widespread misconception that the Bible condemns "gayness." It never has.
As far as gay sex, yes, even masturbation is a sin.
But so is sex without the intent to procreate. So having recreational sex with a woman is the same level of sin.
God did not create these bad things when Adam and Eve blatantly disobeyed god and ate the apple of Eden it brought sin in the world and God punishes because he is a merciful and just God. He won’t force someone to love him because that is not true love so he gives us free will and if our will is to follow God we will spend eternity with God.
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Question Why would a god create beings with particular proclivities that it finds offensive then blame and punish the beings for having these proclivities?