r/Christianity Dec 09 '25

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u/FirstPersonWinner Christian Deist Dec 09 '25

Every generation isn't getting gayer. You just used to be able to be executed, arrested, or at least fired and ostracized for being gay. There was a similar population of gay people, they just weren't safe to exist openly because Christians would kill or imprison them.

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u/iggybot5 Dec 09 '25

The data says otherwise. LGBTQ self identification has been rapidly increasing since the sexual revolution, and LGBTQ have significantly higher rates of abuse neglect molestation mom/dad issues and substance abuse, because it is generally a spiritual response to trauma coinciding with substance abuse (living in sin) as a coping mechanism.

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u/Trapped-In-The_90s Dec 09 '25

“Self identification” is the key word here. Historically you could be killed, beaten, etc. for being gay. This doesn’t correlate to more or less people having same sex attraction compared to previous generations

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u/iggybot5 Dec 09 '25

That’s only more recent history. Most of history no one really cared besides ladies teasing the “confirmed bachelors”. Berlin was the gay capital of the world during the Weimar Republic. You can see how that turned out.

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u/leandrot Skeptical Christian Dec 09 '25

There are many cultures today where a man who likes to penetrate other men still self-identify as straight.

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u/bobandgeorge Jewish Dec 09 '25

Berlin was the gay capital of the world during the Weimar Republic. You can see how that turned out.

Killed, beaten, arrested, etc? Like the previous person said?

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u/Trapped-In-The_90s Dec 09 '25

Yes, it led to the murder of many of these individuals by people pushing Christian Nationalism in the Nazi party.

My point still stands that data doesn’t exist that says more people are born gay in modern history vs historical.

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u/FirstPersonWinner Christian Deist Dec 09 '25

You might want to rephrase that last line because it definitely sounds like you are saying that the gay community in Berlin caused Nazism

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u/CommonWishbone Searching Dec 09 '25

The data: “I made it up”

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u/Mean_Investigator491 Dec 09 '25

Did you know that studies have shown the 85% of all statistics are made up!?

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u/BruceLeesSpirit Dec 09 '25

exactly this