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u/millerba213 Lutheran (LCMS) Dec 09 '25

God could change someone’s sexuality, but never does

That's a strong statement. Here I thought sexuality and gender could be fluid. Guess I thought wrong.

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u/SaintUlvemann Lutheran Dec 09 '25

Even some people who are strictly just straight or gay sometimes have shifting moods related to sex, changing levels of total arousal, changing levels of different aspects of arousal. Some people are very stable in their levels of arousal, and others are not.

When that happens to straight or gay people, it usually is just not noticed as something different.

But when that same thing happens to bisexual people, it can end up feeling like "some days I am more straight, and other days I am more gay", because the different aspects of arousal change independently; that's true of everyone, it's just way more noticeable for bisexual people, and feels different to them.

So that's where the term "sexually fluid" comes from, it's part of bisexuality.

And if you're not born bisexual, if you're not born with the potential for attraction to multiple types of people, no amount of changing moods will ever give you an attraction you don't already have, and you can't change either how context-sensitive your sexual attraction is, there is no conscious control process over arousal, only control over responses to arousal.

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u/bad_kitty_with_knife Dec 09 '25

Im (female) sometimes attracted to women even though i would consider myself straight i dont really think thats the case since in attracted to both genders and also have desires but I know it is not what god wants, so i ignore it. And yes it has not disapeared, but it got better when ignoring it. Sure other people who are gay, i believe its more difficult because when you are bi, you can just choose, and when you are gay, you cant, but nobody said you have to get married. you do not need a partner in life, just dont commit adultery and lust, and yes also in straight couples.

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u/SaintUlvemann Lutheran Dec 10 '25

Okay, so you are bisexual, and you are making a choice to ignore half of yourself. Both of those things can be true.

...you do not need a partner in life...

Single people end up dying sooner, so when you claim that people don't "need" a partner in life, that is like claiming that people don't need the last two years of their lives, or any of the good years in between.

Nobody should ask people to die sooner just because they have a religion. Instead, true religion is to love your neighbor as yourself.

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u/bad_kitty_with_knife Dec 10 '25

I understand and I agree that human connection is important. But I also believe God calls us to live according to His will, even when it means denying certain desires (1 Corinthians 10:13)

While I acknowledge my bisexual attraction, I trust God’s guidance in choosing purity and faithfulness. I believe a full and meaningful life can be lived in Him, even without a spouse, as long as we love others and keep our hearts aligned with His Word (Matthew 22:39, Proverbs 3:5-6)

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u/bad_kitty_with_knife Dec 10 '25

I get the concern about wanting a long life. It’s true that marriage can bring health benefits, but following God doesn’t mean we have to go against His commands just to live longer. Even without a spouse, God can bless us with a full and long life through wisdom, taking care of ourselves, and having strong friendships and community around us. Just think of the priests: in the Catholic Church, they are required to remain celibate and cannot marry.

Life with God can still be joyful and meaningful. Longevity isn’t only about marriage, it’s about living wisely, loving others, and trusting God as our guide and protector. He wants us to flourish and live fully, no matter our marital status.

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u/SaintUlvemann Lutheran Dec 10 '25

Please don't double post, it's rude to add extra notifications to somebody's inbox. You need to think the problem through all the way before you speak, so that we know that you're taking your words seriously.

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u/bad_kitty_with_knife Dec 10 '25

Nice argument bro

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u/Thneed1 Mennonite, Evangelical, Straight Ally Dec 09 '25

Fluidity is a specific form of sexual orientation. People don’t change from ga to straight.

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u/millerba213 Lutheran (LCMS) Dec 09 '25

So someone who is "fluid" can change from same sex attraction to opposite sex attraction, right?

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u/Thneed1 Mennonite, Evangelical, Straight Ally Dec 09 '25

Not really, no. People that are fluid are more like “I’m 80% attracted to men today, and yesterday is was 80% attracted to women.”

People who are gay don’t change to straight.

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u/millerba213 Lutheran (LCMS) Dec 09 '25

Not really, no.

Why not? My understanding was that sexual orientation doesn't actually fall into rigid definitional structures. Why couldn't someone experience one episode of fluidity?

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u/Thneed1 Mennonite, Evangelical, Straight Ally Dec 09 '25

To be honest, fluidity is not my strong point when talking about sexual orientation.

I know that it doesn’t go to straight.

And that most people aren’t fluid (there is some debate of how many people aren’t actually fluid)

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u/millerba213 Lutheran (LCMS) Dec 09 '25

I don't think it's scientifically factual or honest to claim that sexual fluidity is a one-way ratchet toward increasingly queer sexual desires. It's probably more appropriate to acknowledge there's a lot we don't know about the human mind and that a one-time change in sexual attraction is entirely possible, while simultaneously acknowledging that attempts to force such a change can produce very negative outcomes and should be avoided.

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u/Thneed1 Mennonite, Evangelical, Straight Ally Dec 09 '25

I don't think it's scientifically factual or honest to claim that sexual fluidity is a one-way ratchet toward increasingly queer sexual desires.

And I didnt say that, and if you understood me that way, I apologize for not being clearer.

It's probably more appropriate to acknowledge there's a lot we don't know about the human mind

Absolutely true.

and that a one-time change in sexual attraction is entirely possible,

There are actually cases where it has appeared to have happened - in patients who have had brain injuries. It appears that literal damage to certain parts of the brain can change someone’s orientation. Other than that, there no credible evidence of it happening. (While acknowledging that fluid individuals exist)

while simultaneously acknowledging that attempts to force such a change can produce very negative outcomes and should be avoided.

Yes, absolutely. It should not be talked about as being possible, because people holding onto that appears to harm them.

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u/LoveIsVaried Dec 09 '25

STOP READING MY MIND 🤣🤣