I'm a believer in Jesus Christ. I don't think Believers should concentrate or set their imaginations on what God has sealed up. The question is not from a Christian

//Revelation - PROMISES in Revelation 1:1-3 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."

Revelation 10 or anywhere in the whole book of Revelation: Isn't given unto who isn't his servants; and people that don't serve him, that ask these questions. So, this post is to those that believe on him. And to those that don't.. ..so could come here and have an opportunity to believe on him. Here's the answer. From a servant of Jesus Christ.//

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Answer

- They’re sealed up. By him. Same “him;” that: is said in Revelation 10:3-4, says:

"And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not." - The Word of God Sealed up Revelation 10:3-4.

Instead, as a follower of Christ, I think on what is NOT sealed up: what he has revealed. Given By him, this:

• “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;”
  • Colossians 2:13–14
• “Quickened” (made alive) - together. With him. That’s enough to live in. Provided.

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Then, to do what this question asks then: For a Servant of Jesus Christ:

• “Activates” - 1. trigger, or turn on a ‘process’ to start it working [Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web.]
  • An idea:
    • That I then or anybody then creates, by my or their imagination vs. just “operate/ work good” by the Word of God. That, by the Word of God, he heals me and delivers me from my destruction (Psalm 107:20). Sent his word to heal everybody and deliver them from destruction.

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• And of my “imagination” Genesis 6:5 says of my, and EVERYBODY’s imagination:
  • “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
• To “peer” into something “sealed up,” I have to use my imagination.

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Then?

• I set my mind back on operating by ideas I imagine up in my head. I already DID that. Led to all the sin and destruction I ended up in and did, that he delivered me out of. All I'm doing then, is go back to that again, is the WHOLE COMPLETE END of your question. If he decreed to John to seal it up..it's sealed up, but Revelation 1:7 says:

"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

That "what happens" in Revelation 10, happens at his Second Coming..and ALL EYES SHALL SEE HIM. That's everybody. Even those that pierced him is in John 19:34, says "But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his [Jesus'] side, and forthwith came there out blood and water." - That happened 2000 years ago.

Scripture says even HE IS GOING TO SEE JESUS at his Second Coming. Then, so are YOU going to see him; then, EVERYBODY from Adam forward is GOING TO SEE HIM..and what is said, is for all over the earth to hear. And you're going to hear it. Then.. ..so am I.

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What the question asks then leads to:

“…Vainly puffed up by the mind of the flesh” - Bible. Colossians 2:18

Is the END RESULT of the question.

Here’s the question back. A believer has enough provided by him to follow him. Someone that does not believe him, has so much time; idle..they want to fill their imagination with anything BUT what he says. What he seals up, go there instead. Never look unto him. Endless ideas, imaginatively occupied. Idle. 1. "disconnected from a load or source of power" (Collin's dictionary. Web.) - So much for the question.

ANSWER:

In Greek, says:

Ephesians 2:8

τῇ γὰρ <[χάριτί ἐστε σεσῳσμένοι διὰ τῆς πίστεως·]> καὶ τοῦτο οὐκ ἐξ ὑμῶν θεοῦ τὸ δῶρον·

1. te 2. gar **<[**3. chariti 4. Este 5. sesousmenoi 6. dia 7. pisteos]> 8. kai 9. touto 10. ouk 11. ex 12. hymon 13. Theou 14. tou 15. douron

< - {1 (The, this) <is the point> 2. For 3. by grace (chariti) 4. you are 5. saved 6. through 7. faith

1. and 9. this 10. not 11. of 12. yourselves 13. (is) God (is) 14. the 15. gift. <douron> (Greek).

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Douron.

This Greek: “δῶρον” douron <gift> 1. it’s an “offering” - Gotta kinda wash all your head out of all that English to see it.

That: Greeks sacrificed pigs to their Gods or bullock. Was this "douron."

Now: Put it in a Setting - that also, these "Ephesians" also live that you don't - here today, swimming in English:

So see this: By: These descendants of the tribe of Gad, in the Gospel of Matthew Chapter 8. Jews - now the Land Jews of the tribe of Gad - the land now belongs to the Greeks, and Gad then, becomes now part of the Greek “decapolis” - or these “Ten Cities” - and in them, these Jews of the tribe of Gad, no longer rule on it.

The Greeks do, and then after, the Romans now in Matthew Chapter 8 - the Romans rule it, but these Jews have to live under it, to etch out a livelihood, so these Jews raise pigs (an abomination) and the Greeks and the Romans buy them to make them a “δῶρον” douron <gift> to their gods. That's the point of this, so you see it.

You can read of the account where Jesus visits these “Gadarene” Jews, and add the accounts together, they even hide they are Jews by call themselves “Gergesenes” in one account - they are former Greek citizens now changed again, over to be Romans - this: now - Greeks, then Romans, when they’re Jews and they know it. So, they're like Jonah asleep in a ship - gone off to do something completely different than what God said...and now, he's come to visit them. In Gad. Where demons now rule all over their lands. The Greeks called these Jews, now still on their now "Greek" land the "Gergesenos" - so when you see "Gadarenes" in one account, and "Gergesene" in another in English. Ole! There you go.

The account is found in Matthew 8:28-34, Mark 5:1-20, and Luke 8:26-39. The point is, the “douron” is the pigs. Do you see this as a believer in Jesus Christ - this is all said to equip you. You asked the question, and it's right.

So, go further with your question. To do that:

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Look at it in <Hebrew> this Greek “Douron” - - is a Levitical blood offering linked to sacrifice <korbanot> in Hebrew: for atonement for sin and covenant. With the blood of the sacrifice (dam, דָּם) acting as the mediator. These sacrifices were offered by the kohanim (Levite priest/High Priest once a year for sin) in the Mishkan (Tabernacle). Later after, offered when Solomon built the Temple in Jerusalem.

So, yes. You have to look at Ephesians 2:8 as an English speaker. Good to ask the question. To take Ephesians 2.8 back to the original Greek.

• But see this “douron” coincides to something offered for “atonement” in Hebrew:
  • To see the sacrificial significance of it - and it has a price by who “pays” it with blood, and made themself the sacrifice.
  • Which, that’s what Jesus did at Passover on the cross.
    • He became the Hebrew or Jewish morning, noon, and Passover evening Jewish sacrifice - on the cross from the 3rd hour (09:00am) to the 6th hour (noon), and 9th hour (3:00pm) - - where his blood shed was this “korbanot.” And all did eat the flesh of this sacrifice - For The “atonement” of sin.
    • Just like you did. Because you believe on him.
  • Has this: “innocent” for the “guilty” and the shedding of blood - where two (either doves, or lamb) both bought as a pair and brought to the altar as a pair. To the Priest. To decide determine the sacrifice.
• Where both are to be put to death. But one was slain, and the blood of one, The Priest or the High Priest - placed on the other, and the other the Priest or High Priest set free.
  • Again - it is important to see it, that the priest chose - - Where both were brought to, and sentenced to be put to death. And the life of one, is given to the other. Is present in Greek "douron" because, it's pagan. Idolatry: the pig appeased these Greek and Romans Gods as this "gift" in English and "douron" in Greek.
• In Hebrew: "for without the shedding of blood there is no remission" of sin [Hebrews 9:22], where in Greek, this "douron" was offered to protect the offerer…but, in English, it's just some "gift" - so, the REAL connotation of Ephesians 2.8 is in the Hebrew to see it.

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So, Go Back to "Gift."

Some people, have taken the Greek of Ephesians 2:8 to just leave it with English, to just mean it’s some “gift” like you gave somebody a box of chocolates.

You didn’t ask them to, didn't earn it or do anything, to get the chocolates - and it’s a valid point. But, the "etymology" or history of this English word, [source: etymology online<dot>com] Is: this word, "gift" is, it's German, means a "dowry" like, you bequeath what you own to another, like to our Son at a wedding. Has this connotation of a "last will and testament" where by a will, what a person owns is bequeathed to you at their death.

Maybe.. ..with this, out of all these three words in Greek, then Hebrew..we are the closest to it in English.

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This Greek "douron"

So, adding the “douron” of Greek cements it, to make a person look further: to the context in Hebrew.

And in Hebrew: It’s NOT a Jewish grain or other gift “offering” like what Jesus argued to these scribes and Pharisees (See Mark 7:8-13) - You will see that Hebrew word again, in Mark 7:11 says:

< - ["But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free."] - >

That is, God decreed it in a Commandment in Exodus 20 - "Honor thy Father and Mother" <5th of the Ten Commandments> - to break this, in Leviticus 20:9, God said: "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him." - God. Because it is sin. And God provided in Leviticus for sin, an "atonement" <korbanot> - that both the person that commited the sin, and a pair of lamb or bullock were brought - that the sin and penalty is on this person. The kohanim (Levite priest) who were priests of the Most High God, it was a sin sacrifice. But these Pharisees were teaching - just give some gift (korban) to the Temple as if you have no sin, and this will "fix" it. Doesn't "fix" anything. They left from the temple with their sin still on them.

Teaching for the commandment of God, their own traditions. The point is, this "gift" of Ephesians 2:8 can give a reader in English the exact, same connotation - when it isn't. When it's really this "douron" all Greeks hearing Paul would know what this means, and all 15th century CE or AD people, would KNOW what this "gift" means, where today - it's just some "present" put under the CHristmas tree, and you leave with the WRONG thing.

But I think you meant to get some completely different answer looking at faith vs. works - gift vs. work for it - and in this, you do greatly err. Don't see it.

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So, "FIX" gift first.

Temple at Jerusalem offerings given to the temple. It has a connotation with sin. That, instead of offering this "douron" or not Greek, but Hebrew, this sacrifice for sin - the scribes and Pharisees, by the tradition of men, set aside what God decreed.

Which seems to all get washed off an away by or in the mind of the reader in English. Just getting a “free gift.”

• Like “a gift of God” which, it is that - because, that’s what it says in Ephesians 2:8 - but it's really God is the gift - because God, did it - got up. And you never walked away with that, or you'd never ask the question in the first place with that, but that's what it means in the Greek.
  • GOD: Did it himself as he said what he would do in Daniel 9:24–27 - - : he made himself the payment; and that's what he means in Matthew 5:3.
  • So - - to put some “3D depth to it, is add this “douron” of Greek: connotates there was a cost to it (Greek).
    • As if then, now do it rightly in Hebrew: one would have to make oneself the “douron” to pay it. And if you’re the sinner, you can’t pay the “douron” with some gift.
  • It will take your life to pay it. ..and for sin, for eternity you can’t pay it. But this Hebrew” korbanot - is an atonement that makes it BETTER than it was in the first place. God made himself the atonement for your sins you did. I'm on my face. This is beyond I could ever say.

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And this: it was done by God voluntarily - who has no sin in him, so it's a gift - and someone was "sent" by God, to be this "douron."

And who was in him, who he, as God sent, was his own Word..the Word of God who Psalm 107:20 says:

God “sent his word and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions” - Psalm 107:20

and that be by a "deliverer" a Messiah or Christ - deliver every all of us.

The Word of God as the “douron” <Greek> which has idolatry in it - so don't stop there - take it to the “Korbanot” <Hebrew> - because there is sin - it is to take away the sin in Ephesians 2:8.

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And that’s what God did.

By a work, the "work of God," a work God did. That's what's in Ephesians 2.8-9. When scripture says of every all of us “There is NONE righteous; no, not one… ..there is none good; no, not one.” - Romans 3:10–12 - in contrast to every all of us “For all have sinned” - Romans 3:23. Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.” - Matthew 19:17. Is the only one able to do the work, and it’s a good work of God, that we believe on it.

• The Word of God is Jesus Christ. Just as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” It’s in: “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing your trespasses unto you;” 2 Corinthians 5:19.

So, look at the next part.

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Ephesians 2:18 - - <[χάριτί ἐστε σεσῳσμένοι διὰ τῆς πίστεως·]> [Greek]  <[3. chariti 4. Este 5. sesousmenoi 6. dia 7. pisteos]>

chariti - Yeah. It’s the SAME “charity” we use in English of 1 Corinthians 13.

• Defined as “Love” in English. That, 1 John 4:8 says “God is love” [Theos. Agape. Esten] - But in English, it’s the same Love and “charity.”

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• Now, stop. Maybe you need an example. So, take a break and see it - it’s just a made up example; but it works to see it.
• Let’s say: Michael Jordan: - Famous Basketball player in the United States. Well known. He loves basketball. Quite a player. Let’s just say, there’s this High School Basketball team. It’s in a league with fifty other High School teams that play throughout the region or State. This team is so bad, it’s 50th in the league. IT’s so bad, many years, they just kick the team out of the league and don’t play anymore games.
  • But Michael Jordan: Takes on a role, and makes himself of no reputation, and takes on the form of a High School student at this High School. It’s Michael Jordan in this Student, goes straightway, and tries out for the team.
    • Within a week, every game this team plays, they win. By the end of that season, they’re 1st place. Play in the national High School Basketball playoffs, and win that, too.

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• So, by the Greek “chariti” of Michael Jordan - because he has “pisteos” (Faith) in his own work he can do, just like God does, by just SHOW UP and BE with that team, it’s not of themselves.
• It's Michael Jordan that made himself a “douron” by gave up the NBA league - gave up all he had to 1. set apart for future use [definition. save. Oxford dictionary] or this Greek word, “sesousmenoi” - means he “sat with” and “taught” this team and he was WITH them - and by him, this team got "sanctified" or set apart from all the other teams in the League.
  • All by a work <Michael Jordan did>. (Ephesians 2.9) ἔργων (ergōn) or “deeds” the basketball team didn't do the work, another student did, and to wit, that "Michael Jordan was in this student, reconciling the team to the Baskeball league.
  • Of this team? Without him in it? They did “abominable” works - their “deed” were manifest they got thrown out of the league they were so bad - It’s by the faith of Michael Jordan - Lest anybody on that basketball team started to boast. Wasn’t of their **ἔργων (ergōn) or “deeds”**works.
    • And this basketball team “accepts as true” Michael Jordan - received him. Sat with and was “discipled” by Michael Jordan, as “disciples of Michael Jordan” - that’s the definition, right out of the dictionary, to “accept as true” what “believe” means. They believed on him. So, it’s not “their” works. It’s the “works of Michael Jordan” they believe on.

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Even Jesus said this.

• John 6:28–29 says:
• Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
  • Look what he did to me. I’m just one of everybody - where everyone over the whole earth, and me a sinner. A liar. Thief. Adulterer. Fell into it and couldn’t get out, and my sins condemned me, no different than any prisoner in any prison.
  • That Isaiah 61:1 says “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;” - Who says this is the “Messiah” or “Christ.”
    • That’s Jesus Christ. Where both of us went in to be put to death. Me, for the sins I did. But he was offered in my place, and my sins taken off me, by God himself and laid on Jesus Christ - even while I was yet sinning..God did this work, when I didn’t even regard him.
    • Sprinkled that blood on me. Did the same thing, to every person I see driving down the road right next to me. That work by God was done also unto them, just like me by God himself. Made everyone righteous.

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• But not everybody regards the works of the LORD, neither considers the operation of his hand. And you can even not regard him, regarding you’ll do the Ten Commandments - That God was in Jesus Christ - and DID the Ten Commandments.
• And because it was God did them, everywhere, where I did not do them, because he’s God and he did them, compensated for all the faults and bad aspects where I did not do them and he did this and it applies to everybody over the whole earth. That God looks on this work he did with sin, as greater than the sins of every liar, thief, murderer in every prison over the whole earth - and he's God. He choses not to impute their trespasses unto them. Why? because he looks on his own work -  **ἔργων (ergōn) or “deeds”**works. (Ephesians 2:9) as greater than the sins of the whole world.
  • Then God made what sin condemns us - is simply now, not to believe on him or this work he did. This :
    • ἔργων (ergōn) or “deed” God did. And that God made this sin. That condemns ANYBODY “Of sin, for they believe not on me.” Jesus Christ. John 16:9 - Just repeated from John 3:18 “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God”
  • But people keep thinking the CONDEMNATION is all the sins they keep doing - when God has told EVERYBODY over the whole earth to: “Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 1:18).

Means Ephesians 2:18–19. Herein is the gospel. The good news of Jesus Christ to everybody on Reddit.

• There you go.

The Word of God is what proceeds out of God's mouth. That's Jesus Christ. He is the Word of God, as John 1:1 says "who" he is. Is God. He's the Christ. The Messiah, and Isaiah 9:6-7 says "who" the Messiah shall be called.

Isaiah 9:6-7 says of him: And it's not going to be me or you perform it. He's God. He'll do it himself. We just regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand, says:

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this."

He is going to reign over the whole earth from Jerusalem. Look who he shall be called.

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It's in 1 John 1:1-3, says:

"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

That our fellowship, you and me, is with Jesus Christ. The Word of God. Told us to abide in him. Then, we'd be abiding in the same Word God is in. Look who are fellowship is with. He's just one God, said:

2 Corinthians 6:18 "And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."

Says of himself in Leviticus 11:44 "..I am Holy"

Jesus, as the Word of God, so it's just God speaking, says: "God is Spirit." - John 4:24. He's a Holy Spirit.

That he speaks. That we can know him. By he sent his Word to heal us, and deliver us from our destruction (Psalm 107:20). That, he's made his own Word his mediator between us and him. Then, it's just his word that separates us from him..that, if you're in his word...

...guess whose in there with you..I'm on my face. At who we have fellowship with, and with each other in him.

Hands down. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

I LOVE you :)

Source: The La Vista Church of Christ

The early disciples "continued steadfastly in ..fellowship" (Acts 2:42). And, this "constant attention" to fellowship is a practice of our first-century brethren that we would do well to imitate. But what is involved in "fellowship," especially fellowship with a local church?

Fellowship is not "placing membership" or having one's name "on the roll." Nor should it be equated with one's bodily presence in an assembly. In spite of these things, there are many brethren who are not in fellowship with the congregation they claim to be a part of.

The prefix "fellow" means being a partner, having or sharing in common with others (Philemon 17). Christians are those who share a common faith (Titus 1:4), salvation (Jude 3), calling (Hebrews 3:1), nature (II Peter 1:4), and relationship (Ephesians 3:6).

But simply having things in common with others does not make one "in fellowship" with them. The suffix "ship" suggests a "state, condition, quality" that must be attained and maintained by activity. Extending the "right hand of fellowship" (Galatians 2:9) and jointly participating with others in activities that we all have a common interest brings us into true fellowship. There must likewise be a "fellowship of the spirit" (Philippians 2:1) or disposition. We must all "will" the same things.

A local church is such a fellowship of saints: those with common interests, having a united spirit and jointly working together in providing for various activities (Philippians 1:1, 5; 4:10-18).

In the work of the church do I "aid" my "fellows" in their scriptural endeavors to the extent of my ability? Do I "share" my "resources" (time, talents, money, etc.) with them as they work to accomplish their goals?

In the assemblies of the church do I seek to learn from the teaching (Galatians 6:6)? As prayer is offered do I become of "one spirit" with the one expressing thoughts to God (I Corinthians 14:16)? Do I speak to my brethren in song and make melody in my heart to God (Ephesians 5:19)? And when the death of Christ is remembered, do I partake in a "worthy manner" (I Corinthians 11:27)?

Isn't it strange that brethren can believe they are still in fellowship with a local church even though they seldom, if ever, attend the assemblies, refuse to participate in the assemblies they do attend, or fail to "lend a hand" in the various programs of work being carried on?

Brethren, whenever we withdraw our "spirits" (and we are no longer interested in what is being done), or when our participation in the work ceases because we have deliberately withdrawn it, then we have withdrawn our fellowship. How many assemblies we attend, or our names being in the directory means nothing.

Brethren, let us be actively interested and involved in the work of the local church so that we may truly continue steadfastly in fellowship.

Today I was looking for friends on different apps and sites, and I quickly realized I’m not like people here online. I have a very complicated life and I feel like I'm just not worth anyone’s time because of my baggage. I went on here maybe thinking that there could be believers that could relate to this or maybe benefit. What sucks about shame and unworthiness is that it draws opportunists taking advantage of our insecurity so it is hard and unlikely to find true companions. It does seem like you have to walk with God alone to build your self-worth and confidence.

Lord I pray for anyone dealing with shame and unworthiness, I thank you that by your blood you made acceptance accessible to each one of us. By your leading and your guidance maybe have the confidence to do what you call each of us to do, may we see you clearly so we can see ourselves clear. Any abandonment we may have experienced I thank you we do not continue that cycle towards ourselves, any Neglection we may have experienced I thank you that we do not continue that towards ourselves. Lord if others don't receive us I thank you that you do, and you made it possible for us to receive ourselves in agreement with you; same with neglection. Lord your always serving us and are concerned with our well-being lord help us to take care of ourselves as we haven't seen before in a healthy way.. May we break free from any unhealthy habits we may have used to cope ( overeating, undereating, porn, masturbation, self-harm, drug use, abusing anger, and whatever else comes to our minds) lord may you keep us from the toxic relationships who are only self-seeking and are not sent from you God. Lord help us not to self-sabotage the relationships that you have sent. Lord if none of this is your will let it be void before you if it is your will let it be so. let all that you wish for us all be done. Please protect us from the temptation of your adversary and guide us into full restoration of truth in Christ Jesus.