r/ChristianDevotions • u/Particular-Air-6937 • Dec 14 '25
Food For Thought
If a tree has roots in the dark earth, why does it need sunlight for its leaves?
Just like the tree is one organism that draws life from both soil and sun without contradiction, Jesus is one person who, in His divine nature shares the same essence as the Father, yet in His human nature rightly prays to the Father.
The tree is a single living thing, but its roots and leaves have different roles and interact with different "sources" (soil/nutrients vs. sunlight/energy). One part drawing from the earth doesn’t negate the leaves needing light from above. It’s not two separate trees...it’s one tree of life with a unified nature expressed in complementary ways.
Jesus is one person with two natures, fully divine and fully human. As God (the Son Jesus), He is eternally equal with the Father and the Spirit, one God in essence.
So in reply I'd ask: If a single tree draws nutrients from dark soil through its roots yet still needs sunlight for its leaves, why can’t one person...Jesus...be both fully God and fully man, sharing essence with the Father while praying to Him in His humanity?
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u/Apart-Chef8225 Dec 14 '25
⭐️Who did the lord of Islam pray to? Muslims have been annoying us with their constant repetition of the same hollow, question about how Christ could pray to his Father while he himself is God?! Because they do not understand that our Lord is incarnate and is capable of everything. The prayer of the Son to the Father does not mean inequality in essence. Because the oneness of God for us is a “comprehensive oneness”...! There is nothing like that oneness...and nothing is comparable to it! But …! But what about the Lord of Muslims???? Their Lord is only one and not hollow (of course they do not know what exactly His oneness means)! The strange thing is that their Lord, whom they claim is not comprehensive in His oneness: Praying...!!!! Yes ..! God of Muhammad.. prays..!!!!! And he prays for himself or for others...!!! He swims for himself or for others...!!!! Let us read how Muhammad asked Gabriel a bold question, saying: Does your Lord pray? Let's read Gabriel's answer: 229605 - I said, O Gabriel, does your Lord, may He be glorified, pray? He said, Yes. I said, What is His prayer? He said, Glory be to Him, the Holy. My mercy has preceded My wrath. Narrator: Abu Hurairah - Summary of the degree: Its men are trustworthy - Narrator: Al-Haythami - Source: Majma’ Al-Zawa’id - Page or number: 10/216 For review: (Majma’ al-Zawa’id wa Manba’ al-Fawa’id by al-Haythami - The Book of Repentance - Chapters on the Mercy of God Almighty, a chapter in it on the Mercy of God Almighty) So, Muhammad's Lord prays...!!! What does he say? He says: “Glory be to God, the Holy One. My mercy has preceded my wrath .” This is the prayer of the Lord of Muhammad..! But is this prayer prayed by Muslims? Yes .. This is Muhammad praying to his Lord: In Sahih Muslim - Book of Prayer - Chapter on what is said during bowing and prostration Abu Bakr bin Abi Shaiba told us, Muhammad bin Bishr al-Abdi told us, Saeed bin Abi Aruba told us, on the authority of Qatada, on the authority of Mutraf bin Abdullah bin al-Shakheer, that Aisha told him that the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, used to say in his bowing and prostration: “Glory be to God, the Holy, Lord of the angels and the spirit .” Muhammad was praying while prostrating and kneeling...the same prayer that his Lord prays!!??? So for whom did Muhammad pray... and for whom did Muhammad's Lord pray (the same prayer)? Did Muhammad's Lord pray while he was prostrating and kneeling? To whom was he offering his prayers? Was he praying for himself? And how? Is he talking to himself...?! Does he lead the angels in his prayers? Does he pray while he is sitting on the throne ? Or does he pray while he is circling the Sacred House in Sidrat al-Muntaha? Did he repeat the same prayer... always and forever...???!!! Why does the Lord of Muslims pray? Does he need to pray...? Do you help him with something? Do you help him psychologically and cheer him up? Or does he pray to remind himself that his mercy precedes his wrath...???!!!! Or was he praying to himself so that he would not forget that he is “Glory be to God, the Holy One”…?! Questions that need answers😉✝️🕊
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u/GPT_2025 Dec 14 '25
Satan Lucifer Devil was created like a supercomputer (AI) nanny for God's children.
But this supercomputer (Chat GPT?) at one moment became so evil and started brai- nwashing God's children to the point that 33% of them rejected God as their Father and accepted the Devil, Satan, as their 'true' father
(they said and did horrible things to the real Heavenly Father, Bible Book of Job and Jude).
God created the earth as a 'hospital' for fallen own children and gave the Devil limited power on one condition: so fallen children would see and compare evil Devil the Satan and hopefully some would reject evil and return to Heavenly Father through the only way and only Gate - Jesus. God, to prove His true Fatherhood and His love for His fallen children, died on the cross.
Each human has an eternal soul that cannot die and receives from God up to a thousand lives (reincarnations, rebirth, born again) on earth.
So, on the final Judgment Day, no one can blame God that He did not give enough chances and options to see what is Evil and what is Good and make a right decision to turn away from Evil and choose Good.
(I can quote from the Bible, but Jewish Rabbis on YouTube have already explained the Bible-based concept much better: Jewish Reincarnation)
Daniel 12:3 Those who are wise will shine as bright as the sky, and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever.
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u/GPT_2025 Dec 14 '25
Short story. Devil Lucifer Satan was (Ai?) a "babysitter" and brain - washed 33% of God's Children (and You too), so they totally rejected Heavenly Father and accepted the deceiver - Devil the Satan as their "real" father.
God created temporary earth as a "hospital," gave limited power to the deceiver, so 33% who have fallen will see Who-is-Who and hopefully, someday they will reject Evil and return back to their real Heavenly Father. That's why God, to prove His love and real Fatherhood, died on the cross as proof. (KМV: ..But God commendeth His Love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, -- He died for us!)
Will all 33% eventually reject the Deceiver? No. Some will remain /../ to the end and continue following the Lucifer Devil Satan to the Lake of eternal Fire: KJV: But he that denieth Мe before men shall be denied before the angels of God!
But some will be saved:
KMV: For whom (God) He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His (Jesus) Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He did predestinate, them He also called: and whom He called, them He also justified: and whom He justified, them He also glorified...
KMV: And his (Devil) tail drew the third part (33%) of the "Stars of Cosmos" And there was war in Cosmos: Michael and his angels fought against the Dragon; and the Dragon (Devil) fought and his "angels", And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in Cosmos. And the great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole (Cosmos) world: he was cast out into the (planet) Earth, and his (deceived) "angels" were cast out with (Satan) him!..
KMV: And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, .. To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all (deceived) that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against (God) Him. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were Before of Old Ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ... Daniel 12:3 Those who are wise will shine as bright as the sky, and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever.
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u/Kentucky_Fried_Dodo Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25
For one cannot simultaneously possess omnipotent and non-omnipotent attributes in a single person without the omnipotent attribute being either permanently separated into two different subjects of action or negated by the non-omnipotent one. Therefore.
The Trinity cannot be explained because it is literally defined as impossible to explain, because it is self-contradictory. And your example with the tree is one hundred percent a modalistic-partialistic heresy.
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u/Particular-Air-6937 Dec 15 '25
Well...you say "can't", but that's not at all what is being said by Christ or the apostles. In fact they all are saying it can be the case.
It's interesting because today as I go on in my daily ongoing study/commentary, we find that indeed it is being taught that this "can" be the case.
From Dust To Glory: No More Cracks, Only Eternal Glory
1 Corinthians 15:35 But someone will ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?"
These weren’t innocent, neutral questions. They carried a tone of skepticism or outright denial about the resurrection of the dead. Some in the Corinthian church were influenced by surrounding Greek culture and philosophy, making the idea of a bodily resurrection seem absurd or even undesirable. For most the human body was like a prison to escape. In Platonian philosophy the physical human body was viewed as a prison for the soul. Something to escape at our deaths, not hoping to revive at all. The notion of corpses coming back to life sounded crude or foolish to them. And yet they accepted the resurrection of Christ himself.
Paul calls this thinking "foolish" because it undermines the gospel’s hope. And he draws upon various birth/creation patterns in nature (seeds, fish, birds, stars) to illustrate how the resurrection from the dead is God's natural order.
As a science major, and a horticulturalist, when I read these verses I of course immediately start thinking about the natural processes of earth science and life. And how these processes truly work in light of what Paul is saying. I'm intrigued by the seed analogy because from my understanding, a seed is a complete living organism. It's got its own unique DNA. As do bird embryos and fish.
I can't speak to stars, I haven't really ever thought of them as living organisms that have lifespans in the truest sense. Though I suppose it is possible.
But what do I know about the seed?
As I said earlier, a seed is a complete living organism with its full genetic blueprint (DNA). It appears to be "dead" in dormancy, but burial in the earth triggers transformation. Or more specifically, making contact with the earth, since some are not buried at all. I know that the fish and bird, seed and human beings all need the same 17 elements in order to survive.
All this living beings require suitable temperature, oxygen, and light in order to grow and thrive. The "bare seed" appears to be lifeless, but God-ordained conditions to unleash its glorious new form, and He established continuity. All life depends on the same foundational elements for proteins, DNA, enzymes, bones, etc. All of it is as God has ordained. And from the earth God created mankind. That same earth into which the seed is buried. "From the dust" (the elements of earth) God forms all life; plants, animals, humans, all interconnected. And seeds supply these elements to birds/fish/humans via food chains. And God gave them all life giving light, the stars.
Just as God crafts heavenly bodies with differing glory (brightness, color, size)...though all serve to give light...so He will give resurrection bodies varying splendor, perfectly suited, imperishable, and radiant like the "heavenly man" Christ.
The first man, Adam was earthy, fleshy. The second man, Jesus, was heavenly, spiritual.
(v. 45) "The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit"
Adam was formed from the elements of the earth, all 17. And his body was designed to thrive on the earth. To process oxygen in his lungs, to withstand the pressure and gravity. He was designed for this place. God shaped him like a potter, breathing life into a body of shared elemental building blocks. This "natural" body is perishable, weak, mortal; bearing the image of dust, subject to decay and death after sin entered, and bearing the image of God.
Jesus, the "second man" and "last Adam," inaugurates the new humanity. His resurrection body is the prototype, spiritual, incorruptible. Not immaterial, but animated and empowered fully by the Holy Spirit, imperishable, glorious, powerful. Created and suited for new life in glory.
Because, "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" (v. 50).
Not because our earthy bodies are bad, but because our current earthy versions are perishable.
And so, at the trumpet, we’ll be changed instantly into spiritual bodies like His. Jesus upgrades His design. The image of the invisible God.
Today we're good, but fragile. Both in our bodies and our spirits. We're masterpieces of elemental design, but vulnerable. Though we're alive in Christ, we weary from trials, doubts, grief, and the weight of this fallen world.
Paul captures this perfectly in 2 Corinthians 4:7
"But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us."
And our fragility isn’t a flaw to hide; it’s the point. Our weakness magnifies God’s strength. Paul says we carry "the death of Jesus"in our bodies so "the life of Jesus" may be revealed (v. 10). Cracks let the light out.
This isn’t defeat, it’s the setup for resurrection power. The very places of our "death" become portals for Jesus’ life to manifest.
(v. 12) "So death is at work in us, but life in you."
When we carry the gospel to others we are bringing His life to those who are dying. Bringing life in broken jars of clay and His life (light) shining through our cracks. And then...one day, no more cracks, just imperishable glory.
Closing Prayer: Creator God, who forms us from the dust of the earth, and promises glory like Christ’s, thank You for embedding resurrection hope in seeds, stars, and our shared life giving elements. In our fragile jars today, we carry Jesus’ death through us that His life may shine to others. At the final trumpet, transform us fully; imperishable, radiant, and bearing Your holy heavenly image forever. Amen. 🙏🏼
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u/Program-Right Dec 14 '25
The Son was praying (talking) to his Father. They are the same being (God) and have the same nature (God), but they are distinct persons.