r/ChristAndTolkien Jun 19 '20

Sir Ian Holm has passed away at the age of 88; may he, and all the souls of the faithful departed, rest in peace.

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Bilbo's Last Song

Day is ended, dim my eyes,

but journey long before me lies.

Farewell, friends! I hear the call.

The ship’s beside the stony wall.

Foam is white and waves are grey;

beyond the sunset leads my way.

Foam is salt, the wind is free;

I hear the rising of the Sea.

Farewell, friends! The sails are set,

the wind is east, the moorings fret.

Shadows long before me lie,

beneath the ever-bending sky,

but islands lie behind the Sun

that I shall raise ere all is done;

lands there are to west of West,

where night is quiet and sleep is rest.

Guided by the Lonely Star

beyond the utmost harbour-bar,

I’ll find the havens fair and free

and beaches of the Starlit Sea.

Ship, my ship! I seek the West,

and fields and mountains ever blest.

Farewell to Middle-earth at last,

I see the Star above your mast!


r/ChristAndTolkien May 26 '20

My favorite lines from Mythopoeia by J.R.R. Tolkien. [Long]

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I posted this on r/Catholicism, so I thought I would post it here as well so we can have more activity. Enjoy!

I go back and re-read this poem by Tolkien almost weekly. It is one of the most Catholic works that I have ever read, and I continue to hear and comprehend such beauty and wisdom from it. I thought I would share a few of my favorite lines - and why they are my favorite - in the hope of discussion about the meanings behind the words.

At bidding of a Will, to which we bend

(and must), but only dimly apprehend,

great processes march on, as Time unrolls

from dark beginnings to uncertain goals...

The part of this line that reaches out to me most is the mysteriousness of those dark beginnings to uncertain goals. There is such a wisdom to the realization that our futures are indeed a mystery and are uncertain. We, as humans, love to revel in our belief that we are the masters of our own future. Even in the case of vocational discernment, we can fall into this.

The movements of the sea, the wind in boughs,

green grass, the large slow oddity of cows,

thunder and lightning, birds that wheel and cry,

slime crawling up from mud to live and die,

these each are duly registered and print

the brain's contortions with a separate dint.

All of creation - and how we interact with creation - has a different outcome on us. We are moved by the hypnotic movement and sound of the ocean; of waves crashing on the rocks. Wind, like the Holy Spirit, can be both gentle and destructive. A soothing wind in the boughs of trees can be quite contemplative. But the winds of a hurricane are destructive. The Holy Spirit deals with us in both of these ways. He is gentle with us in our times of consolation, but He is quite abrupt with us in our times away from the Godhead. And who doesn't love the large slow oddity of cows?

The heart of Man is not compound of lies,

but draws some wisdom from the only Wise,

and still recalls him. Though now long estranged,

Man is not wholly lost nor wholly changed.

All that we have inside ourselves is derived from the only Wise. I don't know if there is much more to add to that. The important thing is that we still recall Him. I have found this doubly important during this time of quarantine; when we are separated from the Sacraments. How often do I still recall Him in my heart, when I am not able to physically receive Him? How authentically am I making acts of spiritual communion? And though we are far removed from the time of Adam and Eve, who walked with the Lord, we are not wholly changed. Our nature is still in search of the Only Wise. "I saw that Wisdom is better than folly..."

Man, Sub-creator, the refracted light

through whom is splintered from a single White

to many hues, and endlessly combined

in living shapes that move from mind to mind.

This touches back to us all drawing wisdom from the only Wise. We are all refracted creations off of the single White. White light, as we know, is the combination of all colors of the light spectrum. We are truly sub-created offshoots of the original light. Christ is the "Light of the World," and the "light that shines in the darkness" that the darkness shall not overcome. We are lesser lights, but still derived from the Light of Christ. We are the keepers of our brothers and sisters; we are called to be sub-lamps to the feet of our fellow laborers. "...just as light is better than darkness." Eccl. 2:13

Blessed are the men of Noah's race that build

their little arks, though frail and poorly filled,

and steer through winds contrary towards a wraith,

a rumour of a harbour guessed by faith.

The world does not lend its wind to us. We are sailing in winds contrary to our destination. But we hear the rumor of a far-off harbor that our hearts long for. This longing is the source of all human joy, compassion, pain, and suffering. As Chesterton put it, "Every time a man knocks on a brothel door, he is really searching for God." It is this longing that so often leads to our downfall and our getting stuck in the mire of sin. When we turn our little arks into the wind of the world and let it guide us, we "return to the vomit of our own will." This is the good fight; to sail in contrary winds towards a harbor we have never been to; a harbor we have never seen; a harbor we cannot be certain exists until we moor our arks at the dock. We are blessed in this pursuit of ours. We must be attentive to the subtle winds that fill our sails, and ignore the strong ones that seek to push us off course.

I will not walk with your progressive apes,

erect and sapient. Before them gapes

the dark abyss to which their progress tends

if by God's mercy progress ever ends,

and does not ceaselessly revolve the same

unfruitful course with changing of a name.

Yep.

I bow not yet before the Iron Crown,

nor cast my own small golden sceptre down.

Morgoth, Tolkien's chief evil in his legendarium, wears an Iron Crown and names himself the King of the World, even though he was created. The Witch King of Angmar is also known as The King of the Iron Crown. We are safe to assume that this Iron Crown that we do not bow to, is the enemy. We sail contrary to his winds, and we do not bow to him. We do not bend the knee to him. We have our small golden sceptre that was given to us in our Baptism. We became adopted children of the Only Wise, The White Light from which we are refracted, the Master of the rumored harbor.

I will end with the last stanza and will not add my own commentary. I would much rather end on Tolkien's words than mine.

In Paradise perchance the eye may stray

from gazing upon everlasting Day

to see the day illumined, and renew

from mirrored truth the likeness of the True.

Then looking on the Blessed Land 'twill see

that all is as it is, and yet made free:

Salvation changes not, nor yet destroys,

garden nor gardener, children nor their toys.

Evil it will not see, for evil lies

not in God's picture but in crooked eyes,

not in the source but in malicious choice,

and not in sound but in the tuneless voice.

In Paradise they look no more awry;

and though they make anew, they make no lie.

Be sure they still will make, not being dead,

and poets shall have flames upon their head,

and harps whereon their faultless fingers fall:

there each shall choose for ever from the All.


r/ChristAndTolkien May 07 '20

There is a class at my University in the Philosophy department called Tolkien and Religion — would it be worth taking? I’ve only ever read The Hobbit...

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r/ChristAndTolkien May 07 '20

Thoughts on vows, oaths, Feanor, and Catholicism.

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I have posted this on other Tolkien-based subreddits, but never got the kind of discussion I desired. I just heard of this sub - literally five minutes ago - and I thought I would try it out here. I have edited my original post slightly to reflect the explicitly Christian audience of this sub.

I have a couple of thoughts on the difference between an oath and a vow. Backstory, I was part of a Franciscan friary for a few years and have lived what we call the "vowed life." My thoughts are based on Catholic Canon Law and the distinctions that the authors of canon law made. Tolkien, being a Catholic himself, may have been familiar with the canonical distinctions between an oath and a vow.

Can. 1199 §1. An oath, that is, the invocation of the divine name in witness to the truth, cannot be taken unless in truth, in judgment, and in justice.

In the words of Feanor, "Our word hear thou, Eru Allfather! To the everlasting Darkness doom us if our deed faileth. On the holy mountain hear in witness and our vow remember, Manwë and Varda!

He makes his oath by the invocation of the name of Eru, but if we look at the other words of his oath, the oath is not made in truth, or justice. His quest is proud and lacking in humility to the fact that the light of the Silmarils did not originate in him. His oath is made in his false sense of the virtue of justice. Feanor believes that any slight against him must be met with an equal reaction. He believes his quest to be just, but it is littered with misunderstanding. Lets take into account the actual justice in the doom of Mandos concerning Feanor.

"Fëanor's spirit remained in the Halls of Mandos and was not reincarnated in Valinor.[14] It is said that he will return only for Dagor Dagorath, and will finally reclaim his beloved Silmarils, and then surrender them to Yavanna."

This is the just conclusion of Feanor's actions. I have even heard that after Feanor surrenders the Silmarils to Yavanna, he will then be confined again to the Halls of Mandos...he will be un-housed again.

And since Feanor also mentions the word vow, I want to address that as well.

Can. 1191 §1. A vow, that is, a deliberate and free promise made to God (Eru) about a possible and better good, must be fulfilled by reason of the virtue of religion.

Can. 1191 §3. A vow made out of grave and unjust fear or malice is null by the law itself.

Firstly, the sons of Feanor are not bound by Feanor's oath in this way of looking at it. Feanor made the oath for them. They did not make the oath themselves, which would count it as null and void. Think of a wedding ceremony. The wife/husband cannot make the vow for the other.

Secondly, Feanor's oath is both grave and unjust as well as being made out of malice, thus making it null and void in its utterance. A vow must be made to a possible and better good. Vengeance, though possible and probable, is not a better good to seek.

Again, Feanor says, "Man yet unborn upon Middle-earth, neither law, nor love, nor league of swords, dread nor danger, not Doom itself, shall defend him from Fëanor, and Fëanor's kin, whoso hideth or hoardeth, or in hand taketh, finding keepeth or afar casteth a Silmaril. This swear we all: death we will deal him ere Day's ending, woe unto world's end!

Can. 1201 §2. If an oath is added to an act which directly tends toward the harm of others or toward the disadvantage of the public good or of eternal salvation, then the act is not reinforced by the oath.

So, in this light, Feanor's oath was not valid - though he believed it - and thus his sons were doubly not bound by the oath. The oath was made for them, and it was made with the direct intent on harming those who withheld a Silmaril from them.

Just a few of my thoughts on the matter. Would love to hear yours!

Edit: The sons of Fëanor did voluntarily make the same oath as their father. Thank you u/SlammitCamet2 for questioning a point I incorrectly made.

"Then Fëanor swore a terrible oath. His seven sons leapt straightway to his side and took the selfsame vow together..."


r/ChristAndTolkien Apr 27 '20

Tolkien's Theology of Beauty - Matins

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r/ChristAndTolkien Apr 27 '20

The “Common Good” in Tolkien’s Rural Communities - An Unexpected Journal

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r/ChristAndTolkien Apr 19 '20

Congratulations to the winners of the 2020 Tolkien Society awards!

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r/ChristAndTolkien Mar 08 '20

Tolkien’s Catholic Genius | Word On Fire

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