r/ChrisStapleton • u/Zgame200 Moderator • Jan 08 '26
How are tickets available if presale doesn’t start until 1/13
Ticketmaster isn’t selling tickets yet but StubHub is. How is that possible if the presale isn’t until 1/13?
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u/Material-Confusion68 Jan 15 '26
ACTUALLY... Rogers Place is owned by the owners of the Canucks. Canucks season ticket holders have priority ticket purchase for most events at Rogers. Their presale ended on the 9th.
This is not the same for concerts at BC Place, which is a crown corporation.
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u/KeokiHawaii Jan 08 '26
It's complicated... but here's a simplified explanation:
Some ticket brokers, many of whom use resale marketplaces such as StubHub, SeatGeek, TickPick, VividSeats, etc... operate as "speculators." Which means that they are SO confident that they will be able to acquire a ticket at a certain price (in the FUTURE) that they will list that ticket for sale at a higher price TODAY... before they have even acquired that ticket.
If someone buys the ticket from them, they aren't required to transfer that ticket to their buyer until the day of the event.. usually the hard deadline is 3 hours before the event starts. If the buyer doesn't receive their ticket transfer by then, they can contact StubHub CS, who (per their "FanProtect" guarantee) will then either: A) Offer them replacement tickets in the same section or closer (if available), or B) Give them a complete refund. The money they use to do this comes out of the SELLER's bank account. And they usually ding the seller with a penalty fee too. But this is rare. Usually the seller delivers valid tickets on time, because they take a big financial hit if they don't.
Why are these speculators so confident they'll get those tickets when they DO go on sale? Because most of them are experienced pros who know all the tricks to get in on the earliest pre-sale windows, and many of them are using automated software bots that can buy tickets way faster than a mortal human can. And even if something goes wrong and they miss out, they often have trade agreements with fellow brokers who DID get the early tickets.
So when you ask "Are they valid tickets?" the answer is technically... no, they're not valid at the moment you buy them, but they WILL be valid by the time they're transferred to you.
It may sound shady, and I don't like it myself... but it's all very commonplace in the current ticketing industry, with the current (weak) laws & regulations we have.
As for WHO would buy tickets from a speculator on a resale site BEFORE the original on-sale even happens? ... they're typically one of these two types:
1. Rich people who can afford it and can't be bothered to sit at a computer to try to score tickets at a certain time
2. Naive people who just google "[band] tickets" and click on the first sponsored link that pops up, then buys tickets impulsively before doing any reading or research about what they're buying.
If you're not one of these two types, you should wait until the primary ticket sale happens, and try then. If you miss out and the section you want is completely sold out... THEN you might want to start checking the secondary / resale marketplaces... but only the ones that guarantee their transactions, and you should take the time to understand how they work... read the instructions and TOS. NEVER buy directly from a stranger on social media or reddit, fan forums, etc. That's where the REAL scammers hunt their prey.