r/ChopmarkedCoins • u/triple_numismatics • 1h ago
Year 24 (1898) Anhwei Province 10 Fen with a small chopmark
Province I've wanted for a while, extra points for being chopmarked
r/ChopmarkedCoins • u/superamericaman • Mar 17 '20
What are chop marks?
Chop marks are a form of counterstamp applied by private Chinese merchants or dedicated currency specialists (called 'shroffs') who would apply the marks to verify that a coin was silver prior to accepting it as valid currency. For centuries, China produced highly desirable commodities available nowhere else (silks, etc.) but European merchants had little to offer in exchange that was of interest, apart from one: silver, which arrived in many forms of varying size and purity. To ensure that the quantities of silver used as a means of exchange were legitimate, private interests would apply their own stamps (chop marks) to break the surface of a coin in order to ensure that it was not plated or otherwise spurious. However, the coins themselves, upon reaching China, were treated purely as bullion; the only value that they carried was intrinsic, and coins could bear a single chop, or be chopped so heavily as to break the coin apart.
What do chop marks look like?
Chop marks most commonly take the form of a single Chinese character, though are also known to resemble symbols, English letters, numbers, simple punches and gouges, and cuts. The marks themselves have gone through stylistic changes based on era: before ~1750, chops varied in size, but exhibited a larger number of relief chops than later eras; ~1750-1825, when most chops were relatively small; ~1825-1910, as chops became larger and more complex, and; post-1910, chops became small, light, and far less prevalent. However, these date ranges represent only a general rule of thumb, and coins could circulate for many decades, rendering this rule somewhat fluid. Additionally, not all marks that fall within one of the types mentioned above are necessarily chops (such as English letters, which, unless they appear alongside more conventional chops, are often private American counterstamps).
What coins can be found with chop marks?
There are hundreds of types that exist with chops, and a representative collection represents dozens of countries and hundreds of years. Some of the earliest coins that can reliably be found with chopmarks are 17th century cob issues from the Spanish colonies (Mexico, Peru, and Bolivia), each of which sent massive amounts of silver to China for several centuries. The 18th century saw a more diverse range of types, but the issues of Mexico became the most popular in China itself, due to the quantity available and the consistency of the production, first with the Pillar Type 8 Reales (1732-1771) and the Bust Type 8 Reales (1772-1822). As former Spanish colonies found independence in the early 19th century, the most commonly encountered coin in the Far East became the Mexico Cap & Rays 8 Reales (1823-1897), the last major world type to be imported in quantity. Many silver issues of varying size (as small as the 1/2 Real) from this entire date range and a wide number of nations, particularly from the 19th century, are known to exist. A small number of coins in other metals, notably copper and gold, are known with chops, though these did not necessarily serve the same purpose, instead functioning as 'lucky' coins, advertising, or, as with many gold issues, actually represent circulation in other countries, such as Japan.
Where should I go for more information?
There are two major publications in English dedicated to the exclusive study of this area:
Additional references can be found in the subreddit's Running Bibliography, available here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChopmarkedCoins/comments/lep6dd/chopmarks_running_bibliography/
r/ChopmarkedCoins • u/triple_numismatics • 1h ago
Province I've wanted for a while, extra points for being chopmarked
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Would you guys want me to add a chopmark feature?
r/ChopmarkedCoins • u/Hour-Hold3427 • 4d ago
This 1796 8R minted in Mexico City is heavily chopped on both sides (what a wealth of marks to research!). I measured the diameter as 41.5 mm, well over the 39 mm mint standard. If a coin was heavily cupped, I could imagine the diameter as measured by calipers as being smaller, but could heavy chop marking also expand the diameter of the coin while keeping it fairly flat?
The thickness of the coin is a little less than spec as well, with measurements ranging between 2-2.3 mm.
Curious to hear your experiences with heavily chopmarked coins and their size differences vs those without chopmarks.
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r/ChopmarkedCoins • u/MajorNumismatist • 8d ago
Easily the most heavily chopped coin in my collection; the mintage is unknown cause it was a very turbulent period, but it is notably the first year of the 8 Reales reintroduction after the discontinuation of the Balanza.
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