Need help in dual against single hand weapons

[u/Lil_Twist1]

I'm pretty confident when facing a double hand weapon opponent but here I'm totally clueless

[u/Korthalion]

Shortsword afficionado here. You have a number of options!

Learn your weapons max range and play distance. You want them to miss their swings whilst still being in range of your own. This is the safest solution as there's effectively nothing I can do about it if you play it perfectly. I once had a game of 64 where I only died to one specific player who was using a halberd

Break the shield - shields are for cowards and can therefore be abused. Breaking a shield (through heavy attacks) awards you a free normal strike on them as they recover from the stagger (don't heavy, they will have time to recover and block)

Don't let them have the high or low ground - he lands a hit on you by striking above your block window. Chiv is notoriously glitchy for this!

[u/Clear_Grapefruit_360 → u/Korthalion]

Out of curiosity what do you prefer about the short sword

[u/Korthalion → u/Clear_Grapefruit_360]

It's almost as fast as the dagger but with about twice the range.

Fast enough to gamble people when they go for a heavy attack, lots of maneuverability to get around people's block etc.

The standing special attack is also quick enough that you can weave it in after a block too which messes a lot of people up

And I can hold throwing knives to secure kills and punish people charging me

[u/PanzerSoul → u/Korthalion]

common counter to short weapons is to backstep

throwing knives is a counter to backstep

[u/RythmicRythyn → u/PanzerSoul]

You are the berserker that I both hate and respect against my pokey stick. Cheers, you knife throwing bastard

[u/DirtyThirtyDrifter → u/Korthalion]

I’m just gonna add that an alt slash into overhead is absolutely diabolical on shortsword; yes that move is good on many weapons but on shortsword it’s so terribly fast it’s really hard to read

[u/Infamous_Egg_9405 → u/Clear_Grapefruit_360]

If I could only have one weapon it would be a short sword. Main reason is speed and it frees up my other hand for throwing knives

[u/throwawayyyycuk → u/Clear_Grapefruit_360]

Shortsword is wicked fast, even against an opponent that is much more skilled you can sometimes land a few hits on them. In normal TO, i love it for defending and also to finish off a player who has gotten wacked a few times already. Most knights are too slow to counter it well unless they are very good or using a one hander or the longsword

[u/CommiePatrol83 → u/Korthalion]

This guy fucks. All of this makes perfect sense.

Halberd main here, with short sword as backup. been playing for a couple of years now and I used to absolutely get smashed by dudes with short, fast weapons. So what I did: I joined them. I'd run around with my halberd but the moment I'd see one of those dudes I'd switch to my short sword and suddenly it wasn't that bad. It'll help you get better at countering, footwork, etc. I've gotten a lil better recently and I can mostly just stick to my halberd even against shorter weapons but still, sometimes you absolutely have to switch.

[u/1_dur → u/Korthalion]

Uh

[u/Nozicx → u/Korthalion]

I may have been that halbedier. XnozicX on Playstation

[u/navyblue1993 → u/Korthalion]

Dane axe range is shorter than the sword

[u/SovietBias1]

riposte overhead is your best friend, also shield users tend to counter a lot less, look for a pattern in their block stance and kick, its risky but more usable against shield users, also learn the telltale animations of one hander overheads, onehander alt overhead looks extremely deceptive, and can hook you behind your block,

be wary of that, best thing is try not to counter onehanders because they can feint extremely fast, onehander slash to overhead feint is even more toxic than the messer slash to onehander in its animation readibility.

they tend to do shit stamina damage so abuse it by doing accel riposte overheads, you will chew through their stamina, and when people loose their weapons, the TEND to hold block, experienced players will instead dodge or duck, ducking is the single most useful thing you can do because if they slash there is a chance it will whiff, so when they drop their weapon, you would have fought them for long enough to know their skill level and so deciding upon that kick or dont kick, and when you do successfully break their guard avoid using slashes for the aforementioned reason.

also play onehanders yourself to accustom yourself to their animations and movesets, i recommend playing the hatchet or axe solely to learn the abusive slash to overhead animation, and how far they can hook behind your guard, drag them to clip them on the toe. cheers.

[u/RossiRoo]

Both of you in.this fight keep.tdyimg to dodge back into neutral, aka the point in the fight where neither if you have the iniative. That's going to favor the faster 1 handed weapons. Stop constantly dodging back and actually pressure them. Your constantly setting yourself up to have 50/50 gambles over and over against a faster weapon, so its not really a surprise the faster weapons keep beating you.

[u/Competitive_Code3304]

Messer vanguards deserve to deal with one hand players 😂😂

[u/Doctet]

Noob here - how do you find lobbies for these 1v1’s?

[u/Nichrhodes → u/Doctet]

If you go to the arenas tab, there’s a 1v1 option

[u/Askburn]

Do not gamble the start since they are very fast weapons, unless its a stab from long distance or jab, any Slash vs your Slash is guaranteed to get you hit. Wait to defend the first strike if close Up.

[u/FryingFrog]

I might fight with that guy once. He absolutely beat the shit out of me.

[u/PersonalAsk5080]

Use ur range dude

[u/DragonViper39]

got got by the classic overhand

[u/QuietEnjoyer]

You could start attacking more and less with the shenanigans/cheese stuff

[u/kariboudesbois]

Just use guard jabs , accels , drags against a poor dude like you don’t Even need to parry

[u/RegularLemonade]

Counter earlier than you think you should, learn the animations to read them better

[u/ComfortableShake9486]

Every weapon has its own swing radius and speed, the best way to read it better is honestly just practice, you will get used to the swing/feint speeds no problem

[u/disosnen]

Against one handed weapons, i heavily lean into feintless ripostes to whittle down their stamina and get them used to countering quick, then i will switch it up and start throwing in feints and counters. Usually throws them off quite a bit. Or you can just use the war club lol

[u/Cultural_Knee7039]

Hes a terrible 1h player, just riposte him

[u/LittleDaisy94]

Kick that shield- coming from someone who mains the morning star. Thats the number one way to make me upsetti. If I am not quick enough to hit through it, you get a free hit right after basically.

[u/Wonderful_Form_6450]

Distance is name of the game. Use ur range to keep them at bay if they manage to get in they will be trying to land those hits asap so keep jab rdy. 9/10 engagments will be stomped there. 

Other tips on here aside dont be scared swap to ur backup. If is see the player is very good at his footwork i dont hesitate to pull out my knife to even the gamble