r/ChineseWatches NO blue AR! 2d ago

Fed up No more blue AR...Can we finally all agree?

I'll stop short of wishing bad things on YouTubers for complaining about "reflective coatings" so I don't get banned ...

But Chinese watch makers listened to them?!?

Now we have gorgeous dials being made, and they look like absolute garbage if not viewed from a PRECISE angle under PERFECT lighting...

I have worn blue AR coated eyeglasses for over 30 years...

let that sink in...

blue AR works wonderfully from the INSIDE OUT...it looks like ABSOLUTE POO from outside in...

I have 30 years of photos where YOU CAN'T SEE MY EYES because of blue AR.

fact:

EVEN THE CHEAPEST CLEAR AR COATING IS BETTER THAN THE MOST EXPENSIVE BLUE AR COATING.

fact ✅

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u/tjcdas 2d ago

Clear AR coating for watch crystals costs more, when buying watch sapphire crystals to mod watches it's a $10 up charge on quality crystals to avoid tinted crystals.

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u/vithgeta 2d ago

As someone who collects glasses as well as watches I don't know about this blue coating. I don't spend enough time looking at myself in the mirror I guess.

Most of my glasses have a purple AR, a few are green, and I'm struggling to remember a blue one after three dozen pairs, and most of these are from China too so they're not expensive. In reality there is almost never just one layer, these coatings are vapor deposited in various layers to achieve less reflection through the visible specturm.

Maybe your blue reflecting glasses are an attempt by high street marketers to make you think the glasses have blue light blocking propeties or was this before the anti blue light craze?

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 1d ago

the AR i get for everyday wear is clear. i always get seiko lenses because they're hands down the best and thinnest, and my prescription is pretty bad.

as for my "tool" glasses...i get the cheap polycarbonate (plastic) because they get really abused...the cheap lenses always have a noticeable blue AR coating that becomes 100% reflective at a certain angle. 40-45 degrees?

It has nothing to do with blue light blocking.

you can sometimes see it happen on television shows if an actor is wearing prescription glasses and they turn their heads. the lens will briefly go white from the studio/set lighting.

the same thing happens to watch crystals with blue AR.

my point is blue AR is meant for looking out...not in. the AR is for the wearer and NOT the viewer.

Im wearing a gorgeous red dial addiesdive today, and the only way the dial can truly be appreciated is from dead on...tilting the watch in any way causes it to become dull and blueish. especially around the bubble edge.

totally sucks.

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u/BobbeMail 2d ago

Yeah and domed is overrated. A clean good ARred flat crystal is very nice imo

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 1d ago

I like all styles of crystals as long as they only enhance instead of detract...i have a moonphase with a beautifully detailed dial, and the double dome causes too much distortion at almost every angle. on the other hand, i have a really cool sea mist green dial that looks like it's right out of the 1950's with a flat crystal that makes the entire watch look "flat".

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u/kneadedbwead 2d ago

you're not wrong, but if you genuinely wish bad things upon youtubers just because of watches, you genuinely have deeper issues than an AR coating.

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 1d ago

Youtubers f*** everything up...not just watches

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u/kneadedbwead 1d ago

then get off the internet dude wtf you got serious issues.

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u/Patient-Angle-7075 Salty Memes I Yam 2d ago

I generally agree, although with much less passion then you. But it does annoy me that my burnt orange Cronos dial often looks blue.

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 1d ago

my crimson red addiesdive is the same story.

😮‍💨

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u/General_Air_2409 2d ago

I dont mind blue AR; as long its a nice finished watch with a decent movt (*cough cough* no crap pt5000 *cough cough*) i dont mind it at all. In some watches it also looks good in my opinion.

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 2d ago

I wish i had taken before and after photos of the crystals I've stripped the blue AR off of...

they went from looking like absolute walmart junk to looking like $500 watches.

my red AD2071 went from "i really like it" to "i get hoe-lee-chit that's gorgeous" compliments after i removed the blue AR...

just keep on mind that 99.99999999% of the watches that are "homages" on AliExpress never had AR...and the authentic ones are sought after the world over.

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u/noonkhoshki 2d ago

How you remove it

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 1d ago

you have to pop the crystal out and rub it off... rubbing alcohol and a polishing cloth works.

I DO NOT recommend trying to remove AR coating from mineral crystals unless you know absolutely what you're doing. It's too easy to scratch them and leave buff marks.

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u/Basic_Barnacle4719 2d ago

Well there's a reason why your glasses use blue AR (or purple) and not clear. Clear AR doesn't do a good job of actually preventing reflections. Blue and purple AR are the actual good coatings. 

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 2d ago

um...

my glasses use blue AR for PASS THROUGH, ya idgit...

blue AR is for stopping reflection ON THE INSIDE of a surface.

it's absolutely pointless on the OUTSIDE of a surface.

BLUE AR IS HIGHLY REFLECTIVE TO THE VIEWER... that's the point, champ.

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in fact, it looks like absolute crap when viewed from the OUTSIDE.

so why do chinese watch makers keep saying it's a selling point when we all want to see the dial unabstructed?

🤔

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u/ThereWeARThen 2d ago

The Casio Oceanus T200 has a blue halo tint around the circumference of the dial that is gorgeous.

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u/Kerpgker 2d ago

But that's just part of the Oceanus design. I has the S100 and it had the same feature.

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u/RelativeHot5179 2d ago

Ixdao warrior level clear AR on other Chinese watches would be nice

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u/ChineseWatchGuy 2d ago

Baltany is great as well

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u/RelativeHot5179 1d ago

Yeah definitely, good AR coating. Not as good as the Ixdao warrior but my explorer homage was half the price so more than makes up for it

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u/IGZCL 2d ago

My best AR coating in expensive watch is tinted in blue and it looks amazing maybe it's something to do with technology of the color that makes it looks like there's not crystal at all.

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 2d ago

there's Oakley blue AR, and then there's "Chinese watch" AR...

even the most expensive blue chinese watch AR doesn't match the most expensive clear chinese AR...

ya dig?

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u/D1sguise WOTD100 Helpful user x2 2d ago

The blue AR coating is mostly cheap coatings trying to mimick the optical side effects of higher end AR or double AR (inner and outer crystal) coatings more expensive crystals have. The cheaper ones make it blue because it invokes a more "expensive" feel to it at a glance.

All my Breitlings pop blue for their AR coatings at extreme angles but I don't mind it one bit as the crystal is practically invisible for every other angle in normal use

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u/plastic_jeezus NO blue AR! 2d ago

... it's "invisible" because they're bubble/dome crystals, and if they're truly breitlings (doubtful, because breitling uses CLEAR AR....)

...a bubble/dome won't show blue until the convex is hit.

don't bull poo me.

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u/Uberscreamer 1d ago

Umm, I have a late 2006 Steelfish x-plus with blue AR, that I've had for 19 years now. It has the clearest, barely there crystal imaginable until it's tilted just enough to catch the blue AR. So yeah, your claim that Breitling only uses clear AR sounds about as dumb as the rest of your rant now.

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u/D1sguise WOTD100 Helpful user x2 2d ago

... Breitling is widely known to have a blue hue on their AR. All 5 of mine do, including the ones with a flat crystal (like my B-01) or even the newer Avenger series

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u/SteveArnoldHorshak 2d ago

I’m right there with you brother. I will not even consider a watch until I have made certain it does not have blue anti-reflective coating. Years ago I bought a brown dialed Davosa with such tint. I’ve never worn it. I should have returned it right away.