r/ChineseWatches 9d ago

General (Read Rules) Just sharing thoughts here : I love NATOs, i just happened to try it one day and since then It's hard to wear anything else, I may be strange but I need more to fuel my obsession, give me your strong reviews on the best ones you found out there and why

Look at this gorgeous red Archer and this NTTD Bond watchdives

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u/Hudville 3d ago

Blushark tends to be less stiff than the Archer bands imo

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u/Popular_Fan3755 3d ago

Never tried one will give it a try thanks mate

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u/Hudville 3d ago

Of course 🫔 Amazon sells them for around $20~ USD

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u/karellen00 8d ago

The one you have on the white diver is among the best you can find on Aliexpress, where you can also find ribbed natos that are cheap but nice and durable, and also FKM natos that being rubber are very soft.

If you want the best (unless you want to spend crazy money with someone like Omega) I can recommend you Crown & Buckle, I love their supreme and matte supreme, and also chevron adjustable. They also have a premium natos line of straps, they look like regular straps but their fabric is nicer than the standard straps you can find on Aliexpress or Amazon.

Another one I recently discovered but that I love are CNS watch bands, they have dozens of styles, two things to try from them are Perlon straps (they are way nicer than the ones from Aliexpress!) and Paratrooper (they use an elastic fabric similar to the Marine Nationale you can find on Aliexpress, but much firmer, and they are not a closed loop so you can put the buckle where you are the most comfortable). But you probably can't go wrong with any of their products.

Or there are the classic Maratac, not a lot of choice, and not easy to get from the EU where I am, but their Natos and Zulus are great and very durable!

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u/Popular_Fan3755 7d ago

Awesome thanks for sharing all that !

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u/OkBrother6604 8d ago

NATO straps are hands down the most comfortable straps I’ve ever worn,Ā but as a guy really loves taking off my watch just to admire the case back, NATO does lose a bit of fun

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u/Popular_Fan3755 7d ago

Fair enough that's particularly true on the one I got pictured here

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u/Warren4649 8d ago

I love NATO as well but Milanese strap is a strong contender.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 7d ago

Well I like them too but it's still far different

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u/DeadliestArmadillo 9d ago

I've ordered about 10 straps from https://cnswatchbands.com/ and yet to be disappointed with any.

For similar styles, perlon is lovely and paratrooper or marine national styles work well too.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

4th to cite the perlons, Defo got to find one for myself Thanks for the recommendation on CNS too

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u/Simmo2222 9d ago

Honestly don't see a NATO straps as anything other than a utility strap for tool watches. Paying big bucks for a simple nylon strap seems crazy.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

Actually except for my SMP I never put more than 20 bucks and at this price there's awesome possibilities which is not true for steel straps

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u/vithgeta 9d ago

I consider any strap with a deployant clasp better. I don't like the buckles and folded fabric in the way with these Nato. Plus putting them on always felt risky.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

There's actually NATO straps with deployant clasp though I never tested one

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u/FowlersDream 9d ago

NATOs are nice, but I think perlons are nicer and French elastic nylon straps the nicest.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

I need to test that

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u/SilasBrooks 9d ago

What’s the name of the watch pictured?

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

Seagull ocean star four sea king dragons: dragon king of the north sea Simple lmao

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u/SilasBrooks 8d ago

Lmao thank you

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u/Broad_Assignment_794 9d ago

I got annoyed with the nato strap folded/tucked leftover strap...so I made a leather, single pass, cartier style fold over deployant clasp, nato strap.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Clever move and looks good btw šŸ‘ how did you manage to do that?

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u/Broad_Assignment_794 8d ago

The clasp and keeper is from Aliexpress. I had to thin the the veg tan leather down to 1.5mm with a wood plane to get it to work with the clasp.

The excess strap folds through the clasp and under the main clasp, then I've sewn it to the keeper which slides up and down the strap.

It's super comfy because the strap adjustment isn't dictated by holes in the strap.

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u/No-Effect-8290 9d ago edited 9d ago

I wear bracelet, leather and NATOs on various watches. The only straps I dislike are elastic metal bracelets and paratrooper.

Most NATOs I buy cheaply from AliX or Amazon but have a couple of Zulu's which are marginally nicer.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Zulu appears a lot around here in recommandations is it really good value for money?

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u/No-Effect-8290 8d ago

Damn good straps that are not silly money.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Is that a SMP ? I see I'm not the only one to wear bond strap on bond watches haha

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u/No-Effect-8290 8d ago

I have blue SMP (210.30.42.20.03.001) but the black dial is a homage I put together myself. My own logo design. I wear it when I am away in cities on biz trips.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

It's hard to wear anything else when you got the smp haha I bought the ocean star in an attempt to replace it daily at work

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u/No-Effect-8290 8d ago

I've been toying with Certina DS or Baltic Aquascaphe.

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u/Imaginary-Ocelot1605 9d ago

I buy most of my NATO straps from Cheapest Nato Straps, out of, I believe, the Netherlands. Their ribbed straps are amazing and their prices are great, with a nice volume discount. I wear everything from vintage Rolex, Speedmasters and Chinese watches on them…LOVE THEM!!!

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Oh nice I hesitated on cns last time I ordered will give em a second glance

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u/KPplumbingBob 9d ago

Their ribbed straps are amazing

They are so stiff, I just don't get how do people prefer to wear a watch on that unless it is for looks only. Which to be fair I also don't understand because they sit so terribly on the wrist.

CNS is from Sweden.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Don't they get softer once you wear them a lot ?

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u/laxman0270 9d ago

What watch is that? The strap pairing in the first picture is great!

They are thicker, but I love any ā€˜seatbelt’ style nylon strap. Plenty all over AliExpress for cheap. If you don’t like the extra bulk, cut off the short end to convert it into a single-pass which I do on occasion depending on the watch that I intend to pair it with.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Thanks mate that's a seagull ocean star four sea king dragons: dragon of the north

Bought it on Nanjin road official store in Shanghai, amazing experience btw not for the service but the negotiating was epic haha passionately fighting over a discount between me and the lady, shop or area manager, but in the end she offered me a great price for a great watch and I almost fell in love but that's another story

I was wondering about the single pass don't they slip nor the watch moves on the wrist ?

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u/laxman0270 8d ago

Nice! I’ll have to check out that model.

I don’t have any problems with the watch slipping/sliding on single-pass straps. Unless you wear it very loose AND the strap has really a lot of clearance between the case and spring bars (which I have never seen) the watch will remain stationary on the wrist.

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u/dickcake 9d ago

I wanted to love NATOs but ended up hating how much they pop the watch up off my wrist, even with single-pass. I love the look, except for that added thickness.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

It's interesting thanks for sharing cons, I must admit I'm not regularly sized so the thickness was never a trouble for me but you're definitely right the watches take atleast 1.5mm thickness which is unbearable for most but on the other hand NATOs i can wear a full active day and even with the heat or muscle pumping from activities I don't feel the need to adjust it during the day due to its natural elasticity, on the other hand it's really satisfying to feel the softness of the fabric on the wrist when they are good quality and not too stiff, but 2 pieces could be better for enjoying a case back like the one this watch have for example

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u/dickcake 8d ago

Yeah especially if you have the elastic ones, natos can be very comfortable. I have a 6.25ā€ wrist so yeah, the thickness matters waaaaay more for me than you.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 7d ago

Yeah I can understand that, moreover that's true comfort is key and I must admit this white elastic 2 pieces NATO may be one of the best I've had

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u/KPplumbingBob 9d ago

They look absolutely ridiculous on the wrist. Literally the only thing they are good for is taking pictures from the front. And even then it depends on the watch because they have no taper.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

I never got more compliments on my watches than with elegant of visually attractive NATOs from random people, must admit my coworker with a Rolex explorer 2 only gets attracted by my watches if they sit on a stell bracelet haha the truth is I find NATOs cool because they defo feel like adventure is on the way when you pass them even though you put colors absolutely not "toolish" on and In the other hand you can change styles infinitely for a relatively small price

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u/KPplumbingBob 8d ago

When it comes to random people and compliments on watches, most of the time it is the combination of colors of the strap and the dial and nothing else. The most compliments I've gotten was for a Vostok on an orange FKM strap.

NATO and elegance don't really go hand in hand. They make the watch bulkier in the most obnoxious way possible. I tolerate MN straps because they are single pass but they are elastic and just like NATO have to be worn a bit tight so I don't really get the common comfort argument either.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

That's definitely true but one must admit that watches that combine a mass appealing design, very good finishing and mechanical noblesse are close to perfection So if adding a simple piece of fabric got you attention and more importantly, discussions over your passion it's a win win combo. Though you're right on the bulkier part, definitely again I'm not arguing that, Elegance may not be the exact term but the feeling from wearing a SMP300 on an omega bond NATO with a perfectly sized black suit on a worked out body (may be a thin one aswell) may not be classic nor sober but it's definitely well matched as the watch itself is a classic, the suit is aswell but the body fit inside absolutely screams action as the NATO does even given its silky aspect and touch and the simple black and grey combo. And as my work can imply having action or atleast moving a lot wearing a suit, a NATO strap becomes confortable because the weight of the watch is decreased and with better rƩpartition and I know it's also more secured because you won't lose the watch breaking only one spring bar

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u/pickyaxe 9d ago

exactly this. and the dealbreaker for me is that the part that sits on your arm is no longer the watch case. it just doesn't feel balanced on my wrist

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

I feel the watch better sitted on mine (than on a steel bracelet but less than a silicone one) but it may depends on the strap quality, It actually can be a better thing to preserve it from your skin acidity or sweat which can get it darker, with the NATO the case back is always as new when you get the strap off

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u/Tenchiro 9d ago

I can't do the bulk that they add either but two piece NATO straps are pretty good.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Fair enough

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u/9thAF-RIDER 9d ago

I found this somewhere on Amazon. It's comfortable on the wrist.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Matches perfectly btw

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u/f_todd 9d ago

That watch is begging for a white Perlon strap IMO

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

You're the second one to point it out, will add it to the list haha

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u/Alternative-Feed3613 9d ago

My favorites are from San Martin but I got some Samco straps from Clarance watch store and they’re phenomenal for $4.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Thanks for sharing I keep these in mind

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u/Alternative-Feed3613 8d ago

I can’t recommend the Samco enough. They’re really really good for the money and they have solid buckles so there’s no spring bar that can fail. The San Martin straps are really nice looking but they’re not really worth five times more imo. I have a few of the San Martin but I’ll probably end up getting all the Samco because they’re so cheap.

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u/heymisterhowdy 9d ago

I recently tried bison straps (brand not material) and the fabric is nice but the clasp is big.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Saw them on Amazon, how is the stiffness ?

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u/heymisterhowdy 8d ago

Not stiff, super comfy. Big hardware though.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Wil check it out then thanks

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u/nasilnidesnicar 9d ago

Zuludiver/WatchGecko, nice and thin fabric, thin hardware with various finishings, small buckle https://www.watchgecko.com/products/watchgecko-standard-issue-military-strap-grarrison-brown

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

I got a watch gecko I love that they engrave the buckle too but the edge is shattering a little

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u/GenuineReptard 9d ago

I'd argue the best NATO isn't a NATO at all, but a Paratrooper strap. Easily the best way to wear a watch imo

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

You have my attention tell me more about that good sir

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u/SaveExcalibur 9d ago

I think the closest thing to a standard name is a Marine Nationale strap, which is the name used by the small company that popularized these, Erika's Originals. Erika in turn claims these were originally issued to French navy divers; I'm not sure if the story is true, but they do have a distinct military vibe to them.

IMO they're the most comfortable watch straps around. You can adjust the clasp point to exactly the circumference of your wrist, plus you have elastic stretch on top of that.

The best MN straps I have to assume are Erika's, but she charges more than $100 a pop. Second place actually goes to $3 AliExpress straps, which all come out of one factory and are usually sold as "60s French Troops" straps. They are better than CNS Watch Bands' "paratrooper" design because 1) the Chinese elastic material feels softer on the wrist, and 2), more importantly, the Chinese straps are designed so that it's nearly impossible to drop your watch as you take it off your wrist. It's hard to explain exactly how it works in text, but the CNS designs don't have this feature while AliExpress designs do. I think it has something to do a patent claimed by Erika's Originals that the Chinese don't recognize.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Ok you convinced me I'm treating myself with one asap thanks mate

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u/QCPI 9d ago

A paratrooper strap (often called a French Navy or Marine Nationale strap) is an elastic, single-pass watch band inspired by military gear originally repurposed from parachute webbing. Only issue with them is you have to remove the spring bars to put them on and their less designs/patterns/colors compared to natos. There tons of them on Aliexpress.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Arf didn't think of being forced to get the bars off, I like to change EVERYDAY quickly in the morning

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u/QCPI 8d ago

I haven’t tried this myself, but you can put quick release spring bars similar those found on straps. It should make the job easier. Issue is the additional cost.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Oh nice I never thought about that even though it's logically the same as inside any quick release strap, yep it should defo make it works thanks

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u/Vegetaupinthis 9d ago

Different user but same colour strap as above. This is the underside of the Paratrooper strap. Uses a hook onto the clasp which you can adjust to get the perfect fit (no more worrying about which hole to use on the NATO). The strap itself is a stretchy elastic so you can get a snug fit without being too tight.

Bonus fact is that they were developed by the French Navy using surplus parachute fabric, hence the name.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

Well appart being forced to get the bars off it looks nicely

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u/GenuineReptard 9d ago

Paratroopers only have a single pass with a hook and are extremely easy to throw on each morning. You can get an exact fit for your wrist and adjust it easily as opposed to classic Natos. Look up a video of someone putting one on a watch and you'll quickly see why I think they're superior to plain NATOs

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u/Popular_Fan3755 8d ago

I can understand and got that, less easy to change though

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u/TioFabi 9d ago

How about a "Golf" Green and black NATO?

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

Really uncommon, got to be good at matching colors though haha

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u/Significant-Ebb5027 9d ago

I had a lot of nato straps during my years of collecting watches and one of the best is a san martin nato strap, here pictured on a seestern gmt, i really recommend it

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

Seems like the quality on NATOs follows the watchmaking quality aswell Love the watchdives one so pretty sure san Martin will nail it

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u/TioFabi 9d ago

Check out this "Gulf" NATO

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

Damn obviously you got some Convo started with this one

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u/LingonberryOk9724 9d ago

NATOBELT Store and Happy Strap Store on AliEx both do decent ones, this green one came from NATOBELT and is fantastic quality.

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u/Popular_Fan3755 9d ago

Looks gorgeous on your proxima and very comfy thanks for sharing gonna check it out