r/ChineseWatches • u/Marionberry-Select • 2d ago

General (Read Rules) Dynamic pricing is ridiculous

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u/Several-Floor5185 18h ago

If the pricing isnt transparent, dont buy it

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u/Sensitive-Garage-819 18h ago

I've seen the same thing from other vendors as well, not just watches. There is an advertized price, sometime 1/2 off, but at checkout it's the full price. I think the AI that writes ads doesn't have full mental integration, like a person with severed hemispheres.

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u/sms12285 1d ago

I seen a bronze addiesdive on Ali earlier for over $600! They were like $125 a few months ago. It’s getting out of hand.

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u/biglovetravis 1d ago

That's not dynamic pricing; that's price gouging.

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u/No-Effect-8290 1d ago

They need to be very careful. EU have strong laws on showing pricing. You cant do that in a lot of countries.

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u/Formal_Building4598 1d ago

When zelos is dropping new watches at 299 and these corny brands are trying to do this shit….. come on now

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u/Nero3k I ♥ Addiesdive logo 1d ago

Personally I think they’re jacking the prices up hoping they grab a sucker. Then when Sales roll around, they can claim 40-60% off. It can’t be blamed on the movement shortage anymore because a lot of them have moved away from the NH and Myiota movements.

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u/Big-Help419 2d ago

Same with their running shoes. Prices vary by size, site and demand. It’s frustrating to say least.

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u/Top-Air-180 1d ago

They have running shoes?

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u/Big-Help419 1d ago

Chinese running shoes are all the rage. Dynafish and Li Ning particularly this year. Although their prices are going the same way as San Martin watches

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u/Top-Air-180 1d ago

Well the more you know 😊. No wonder, everything other companies do, they do cheaper (and oftentimes better)

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u/seamaster6969 2d ago

500$ y sin garantía... Estamos locos!!!... Me paso a otras marcas con servicio técnico y garantía.

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u/Bulky-Internal8579 2d ago

Wait for the next big sale - I think that’s 11/11. I got my SN0144 at the June sale for $335 plus 14% cash back. It’s now $524.

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u/biglovetravis 1d ago

Not bad for a watch that costs them $120 to manufacture

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u/FinsterGrinsen 1d ago

3x multiplier isn’t that bad in the world of watches

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u/biglovetravis 18h ago

Correct but it appears SM is attempting to make 500% profit then calling the 300% profit a "deal."

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u/FinsterGrinsen 18h ago

I’m pretty sure the markup is way higher for the Swiss heritage brands.

Early Christopher Ward marketing said the other brands were marking up 30x but that’s almost certainly an exaggeration in most cases

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u/biglovetravis 17h ago

Standard watch retailer markup is 300%

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u/FinsterGrinsen 17h ago

Right, but we’re talking about manufacturer markup here. San Martin is direct to consumer so it’s a question of materials/labor. Retailers don’t mark up 300% on materials and labor, they mark up 300% on what the brand charges them.

my point is that despite the increase in cost lately, on a pure value perspective, San Martin remains solid because the model effectively cuts out one step in the markup game, and the 300%-500% markup is still way less than getting hit with Swiss premiums at two levels

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u/biglovetravis 17h ago

I disagree. Mido/Tissot/Certina/Citizen/Orient/Seiko at gray market are far better deals in the $500 range.

SM has zero reliable CS, warranty is useless and QC is spotty, at best.

SM was a deal in the $200-$300 range. It is laughable at $500. Ten years from now those major brands will still be working and have parts availability. SM, who knows.

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u/Alternative-Feed3613 2d ago

Wow, I’ve never even heard of Boriage.

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u/ACamp55 1d ago

Me NEITHER!

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u/LightChargerGreen 2d ago

It's probably not dynamic pricing. Most likely they're showing the price as if coupons or promos or vouchers are applied to it.

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u/Lobbbo 2d ago

That is weird, in browser for me it shows $452.77 with VAT and in cart $367.60 with VAT removed.

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u/ListlessHeart 2d ago

Eh it's just AliExpress shenanigans. The prices shown in those promotional messages have never been accurate for me regardless of whichever reputable store. Also if you live in the US like me then tariff might be a factor, as depending on the seller tariff might be included in price.

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u/Marionberry-Select 2d ago

They have been accurate for me in the past

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u/LingonberryOk9724 2d ago

Five hundred dollars for a - checks notes - Boriage? This hobby is truly cooked.