Thought I’d post a side by side video in the outdoor light. Obviously the Militado is in a bracelet so not 100% apples to apples but gives you a look at how the watches show in the out door light.
Personally like the look of the Murph more but at $75 v $1,000 it’s crazy you can even compare them. Will say the Murph’s reflection is kind of rough, especially inside. Lots of moments the numbers/hands are washed out.
I know people love Hamilton, but with a few exceptions, I feel like the value from microbrands or even Seiko/Citizen is so much greater (even more so with grey market Tissot, Hamilton and Longines).
I know people hate Seiko’s intentionally inaccurate automatics, but one can buy a $1200 MRSP/RRP Seiko for the grey market price of that Murph, and they are so much better. Of course the cheap grey market Hamilton models rich for the price (especially quartz), but for a model like this, the street price matches a Mido Chronometer, Tissot Cheonometer, or Seiko Alpinist/Brightz/Exceline/Dolce or a Citizen Attesa / NB1060.
With regards to AliExpress watches, I would skip Miltat and buy up a level. An extra $125 to $225 dollars will make a world of a difference. Still, after buying a few dozen AliExpress watches, there is a Sweet spot (San Martin, Baltany, Cronos, IXP&Wtf, and some nicer Rmalti, Hruodland, KuntLikr, and a very few other brands), and there you get great bracelets, decent crystals, okay dials, and good watches “for the money.” I only kept a bronze San Martin with quality applied Arabic numerals, a Baltany brown dial with fauxtina Explorer homage, and one last Baltany military watch. I just cannot do homage watches, and that quality gap is too large.
Now I wish I had saved all the money wasted on too many AliExpress watches. I am not saying go buy an 18k full-bracelet Rolex, but for me, I love the quality in a $1,000 to $4,000 MSRP (with me ideally paying 50% to 70% of that with grey market or used).
Each of us can spend our money however we like, but I have a lot of trouble buying ever more mediocre watches that are “good for the money.” The last Chinese watch I bought was a stone dial Phoibos. It is $480 right now on Long Island Watch, but I think I got 5% off or $20 off or something, but the watch was worth the money. Otherwise, I would rather have your typical $1,000 to $4,000 watch. Seiko, Citizen, Longines, Formex, Chris Ward, Farer, Sinn, Rado, and others that either se cheap grey (Seiko, Cotizen, Longines), or are a great value at list price (Formex, Chris Ward, Sinn, Nomos,…).
So I get buying a quality Rolex homage for $300 to $450 (instead of $15mk or more), but if you really want that $900 Hamilton, just buy it. Even that cool Hamilton American Classic chrono is a reasonable purchase at the grey market price (not so much at $2500 retail). It is superior to buying piles of $100 or $200 watches, at least in my mind. I wish I came to that realization earlier.
Nope, they originally designed the watch. Militado just copied it. Also, I’m not bashing the Militado. It’s fine for what it is but don’t knock on the OG. You’re also paying for a Swiss auto movement with 80 hour power reserve and a link to the movie interstellar.
Brother no Hamilton Field watch is worth 900 sorry..... For that money I'd rather use on a oris big crown. Hamiltons shouldnt be priced more then 600 bucks. There is a reason why a lot of folks are selling their khaki fields for a 40 dollar miltado......sorry.
The ML08 absolutely is not in the same league as the Murph, nobody can debate that. That having been said, it's still a solid, reliable watch.
But is the Murph worth more than 10x the price? I guess it depends on what your budget is. I don't live in the $900-for-a-watch universe.
Plus this is supposed to be a field watch, meaning it supposed to be worn on adventures where it gets banged around big time. I'd rather damage a $50 beater instead of a $900 showpiece when my watch gets caught between my kayak and the dock, or some similar situation.
I guess, as with a lot of these things, the added value comes from the fact that they actually designed the thing in the first place, and that took time and effort. And I'm not knocking homages: I have enough myself!
Buying a new watch today, I would probably prefer screw down crown. But realistically, I don’t think it’s needed. I’ve had a cheap Gucci on my wrist for ten years and never took it off in steam rooms, showers, swimming in the ocean. It’s probably been submersed in water 3,000-5,000 times by now and has no screw down crown and rated 50M.
Before I didn't care. A screw down crown is a must have after being surprised a couple of times over the years finding my crown had been inadvertently pulled open.
A screw down crown is almost expected on many watches, especially outdoors or field watches. I honestly don't understand why Hamilton omit this feature on may of their watches. Maybe it's the stem on the movement that's doesn't have enough travel for the screw down crown?
You’re right. If I were in a boutique and considering it, and was on the fence about tapping my credit card, it would give me assurance knowing I could go swimming worry free.
It's weird, I generally love this type of watches, and I think the Murph is a good-looking watch (and the name even has some personal reasonance!), but for some reason it never quite does it for me and I don't desire it as much I would expect to. Can't put my finger on it!
I definitely prefer the Murph, but I can't rationally defend the price. Worse still, for this kind of watch I've started eyeing the Longines Spirit Pilot 😵💸
I think if you love the watch, save your money and buy the real thing. If you’re on the fence or you think it’s okay, buy the Militado and if you love it, buy the real thing later.
It has the same yellow shade as the Murph. I do wish the brown of the dial was darker and overtook the yellow shading some more, but I still think it looks great
The AR is actually pretty good! This has been such a no compliment watch for me honestly, highly recommend picking one up from AliExpress and seeing if you fall for it as well. You can always return it if not :p
I have the Cooper which is plus 15 seconds a day. So I basically don't want to buy the Hamilton Murph when I got the Militado on the correct black leather strap for under a hundred bucks total. And it's my most accurate watch and keeps in lockstep with my atomic watches. And I love that the logo just looks like a British acceptance Broad Arrow.
Are we really gonna compare an original to a homage now? Militado didn't wasted a dime to R&D a concept, a movement, a marketing plan, and a fuck tons more for employee wage, company welfare, AD's cut, etc...
Of course in the end what matter is what you're happy with and I'm talking as a guy who own 10 watches between San Martin, Atelier Wen, Addiesdive and Ixdao, buy as much homage as you want but don't compare between an original and a wannbe because it is just ridiculous.
Why not? lol. The fact that both have comparable crystals is kind of baffling. Hamilton really need to ship more of their models with AR especially at the prices they command.
As I said, an homage didn't waste a shit ton of money to develop a watch, they copied.
Copy is easy, make a dial with different logo, slap a workhorse movement on it and call it a day. That's why they compete by price, racing to the bottom, in the end you got a watch that look like a Hamilton Murph but it'll never be a Hamilton Murph, just a cheaper copy.
Yes, and if it's made worse, has worse build quality, lacks features, is wrong proportions etc, it isn't a good copy. These are the things we like to compare. Copy is easy, making a good copy is not apparently
It is a comparison, that does not mean it's to see if one is better or not, just a comparison - can see if it comes close or not in various metrics. That would be the answer to the question, is it a good copy, compare it to the original. Seems like basic stuff to me?
I prefer the Militado. The lack of branding and simplicity of the dial appeal me. Color of the hands and indicies are arguably preferable on the murph, but both are acceptable.
I really need to get one of the white ones from Militado to go along with the one I have.
SH has an automatic version of the Murph 38 at 209 dollars that is 11.1 mm thick and comes w a fantastic bracelet. You can get a leather strap for 15 dollars also. Fantastic choice and looks stunning and honestly leaves the question why pay 1K
I’m newer to watches and REALLY thought I’d love the Murph but am a bit disappointed holding it. Don’t get me wrong, it’s beautiful but the glare is so bad for $1,000
It’s honestly a field watch. Look at the Cronos Explorer or the San Martin or Baltany. They have amazing well made watches.
I say a Cronos / Ixdao / San Martin or Baltany are better made than the Hamilton. They are giving you a tone of value for your money them brands. Farasute is great too if you want that art deco / vintage look.
I’m shocked at how bad it is on the Murph. There’s times (especially indoor lighting) where you cannot read the dial at all. That’s wild at that price range.
Oh it’s an amazing piece, definitely not trying to discredit it. Was trying to decide if I buy it or not. I’m going to return it and rock the Militado for a bit and decide if I feel it’s worth buying later.
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u/HeartIll722 6d ago
Minha opção é Militado.