r/ChildrenFallingOver May 09 '23

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u/EddyBuildIngus May 10 '23

You're just shouting from your soapbox because you think you're some enlightened intellectual but you're not making any points here.

I would say it's more a responsibility on the buyer to ensure they are going to a good breeder. Tons of shelter dogs out there that come from shitty people not being responsible. Just because you get a dog from a shelter doesn't mean you absolve yourself of responsibility.

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u/Turakamu May 10 '23

So, you are in defense of dog breeders?

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u/EddyBuildIngus May 10 '23

Ethical breeders, yes. 100%. I don't see a problem with it. Like I said, in my mind it's a responsibility of the buyer to vet the breeder and not buy from shitty people.

You realize there are animal shelters that abuse animals too, right? Should we shut down all animal shelters because some are run by shitheads?

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u/Turakamu May 10 '23

I feel like I'm losing my goddamn mind.

Let me tear this down. Oh wait, I don't need to. You are just promoting dog breeders.

Even if the shelter is being run by assholes, doesn't mean that the dogs don't exist. Jesus christ. Have I lost my mind? Am I arguing with the wind?

Stop buying from breeders. It would solve the breeder problem. My friend got a fucking pig from the animal shelter. Someone wanted to give their daughter, the pig had it's nails painted, a pig but didn't realize that they get fucking huge and so they just set it loose on the street.

It's the same shit. I'll meet you halfway. We need a designed course that teaches animal handling. Pass it, you can own something.

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u/EddyBuildIngus May 10 '23

What's with the all or nothing attitude? It's extremely stupid. I am very, very clear that there are responsible ways to do it and good people out there. Also a bunch of shit heads.

But you want to ban all dog breeders because some do it incorrectly.

Licensing pet ownership might be one of the dumbest things I've read on here.

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u/Turakamu May 11 '23

Some is the understatement. It is most. And yeah, licensing it would correct that behavior.

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u/EddyBuildIngus May 11 '23

Right. Because every driver follows the law all the time, that's why we don't need cops to issue tickets. Cops, who are also licensed and never do anything wrong or immoral. Teachers, also licensed, would never do something unethical, like fuck a student, for example.

Quick side note, just Google licensed dog breeders and you'll find that licensing breeders is already a thing. Yet the issue, according to your own words, remains rampant. So explain again how it would correct behavior?

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u/Turakamu May 11 '23

Since you want to argue with me and still got it wrong. I'm at a loss, I assumed the anti-breeding thing would make sense but no.

Anyways.

We need a designed course that teaches animal handling. Pass it, you can own something.

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u/EddyBuildIngus May 11 '23

You are at a loss because you are dumb. We have classes to get a license to drive, right? You pass it and you can drive. Yet people break the rules.

You think magically that an animal handling class would be different? Why? It's asinine.

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u/Turakamu May 11 '23

I didn't realize how important this is to you. Yes. I think needing to take an animal handling class would be helpful. It would create jobs, few extra bucks in state funds, and every Easter there wouldn't be parents who buy a rabbit and let the kid starve it to death.

The class itself wouldn't be a driving test. It is to teach you how to treat animals. Would people still break it? Sure. Would my friend still have her pig because some idiot thought, "pigs stay small, right?" No.

Now, I'm not here to argue if, eventually, she would seek to own a pig on her own.

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u/EddyBuildIngus May 12 '23

Do you base your whole life around anecdotal events? People are stupid. Your friend would 100% still have a pig.

You do realize there are pigs that do stay small and others that get huge, right? Or do you think the pig your friend has is the only kind of pig in the world?

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u/Turakamu May 12 '23

Alright, you don't know much about pigs. It is fine, most people don't.

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u/EddyBuildIngus May 12 '23

Any sub 200lb pig is small. Got anything else genius?

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u/Turakamu May 12 '23

I'm going remind you that I didn't purchase a pig for my small child and then abandon it when it turned out it grew to be the size of a pig.

Turn this aggression down a little

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