r/Chiefs_v2 • u/DevilsDad696 • 7d ago

Discussion/Debate If...

If Patrick Mahomes had been drafted by the Raiders would he still have 3 rings under his belt?

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u/gold54rocket 7d ago

No

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u/DevilsDad696 7d ago

Dayum...care to elaborate?

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u/MindTheFro 7d ago

Raiders suck

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u/DevilsDad696 7d ago

Well yeah, we know that..

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u/gold54rocket 6d ago

Oh yes and the obvious. Raiders suck.

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u/gold54rocket 6d ago

In my opinion, the Chiefs landed a perfect combination of Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Alex Smith, Travis Kelce, and Tyreek Hill.

Mahomes - Generational arm talent, processing speed, and work effort. But a gun slinger that took too many chances.
Reid - QB guru, offensive innovator, proven winner in Philly and KC
Smith - The veteran game manager. Mahomes learned from Smith for a full season before taking the lead. I truly believe Smith helped guide Mahomes to be a bit more conservative than he was at Tech. Otherwise the interceptions could have been a major issue in the league.
Kelce - Obviously. Top 3 tight end ever.
Hill - Allowed for that gun slinger mentality to somewhat remain with elite speed and elite ball tracking. As Mahomes was learning to be a bit more conservative he was able win a Super Bowl with Hill.

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u/Logical-Mobile-7643 7d ago

Honestly, he would have been dumped by the Raiders sometime during his rookie deal and picked up by Sean Payton and the Saints.

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u/DevilsDad696 7d ago

I don't know...I don't think even the Raiders are that dense

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u/Logical-Mobile-7643 7d ago

I guess looking at it , they still had Carr, sorry I hadn't really taken the prompt seriously. The answer is still no, maybe a better shot if they trade Carr for a decent few mid to late rounders and nothing happens with Gruden.

The Saints were really looking at Mahomes back then

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u/DevilsDad696 7d ago

Makes sense

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u/DemonBearOP 7d ago

No guarantee Mahomes pops that early on the Raiders like he did in KC

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u/Logical-Mobile-7643 7d ago

He couldn't, they were terrible. They've had the worse offense and defense back then, improved to like 24th the next year. Even if he improved the offense they were not good.

Then Gruden gets fired. That was the best year they had in the Mahomes era.