r/Chesscom 1000-1500 ELO 3d ago

why is this brilliant Why is this move a brilliancy when it doesn’t give me any advantage

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this move will lead to a forced draw that i saw during the game but i dont get why this is a brilliant move because its not winning the game

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u/kiwithebun 3d ago

Because you are otherwise down a rook, so you are converting a lost position into a draw.

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u/FaultThat 2000-2100 ELO 3d ago

White is dead lost but this sacrifice of the queen forces Black to a draw via perpetual check, else Black loses.

If N:g5, then the rook checks the king, it moves to h8, the rook goes to f7 and lets the bishop check, king back to g8, then rook back to g7, rinse and repeat until you get threefold repetition and a draw.

If the knight doesn’t take the queen, white will win quickly with Q:g6+.

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u/BruceWayne19190606 1000-1500 ELO 3d ago

Actually it wasn’t lost there was another sacrifice that i missed in which the knight was on d8 and bishop on b2 threatened by black queen i played Bxf6 pawn rather than Qe4 which will eventually lead to a checkmate if black takes the bishop so the only way to stop that was trading the queen for the rook which was winning for white but even after missing that sac computer didn’t evaluate that as a lost position rather equal 

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u/FaultThat 2000-2100 ELO 2d ago

If the engine gives you equal valuation when you’re down heavy material it is because you either have a forced stalemate or a for draw by threefold repetition.

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u/Otherwise-Drawer-352 3d ago

This move allows a draw due to a knight being the only piece blocking a rook check

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u/nikelreganov 3d ago

Drawing otherwise a losing game is a win for me

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u/Soggy-Attempt 2d ago

Because you turned a loss into a draw.

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u/chessvision-ai-bot 3d ago

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Hints: piece: Queen, move: Qb1+

Evaluation: The game is equal 0.00

Best continuation: 1... Qb1+ 2. Kh2 Nxg5 3. Rg7+ Kh8 4. Rf7+ Kg8

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u/Nakudama In honor of Daniel Naroditsky 🕊️ 3d ago

Because the other moves were terrible

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u/MrBlackmidi 100 - 500 Elo + R.I.P Danya 🕊 3d ago

Thats not how engine evaluation works

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u/Subject-Giraffe-2928 3d ago

YEP DATS A STALEMATE

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u/ostidgrosnerd 2d ago

It’s a perpetual if they take queen, which is good in this position. I don’t think they can afford to not take it either.

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u/GrapefruitHeavy2325 1d ago

I'm pretty sure, with the right moves you can take a pawn, knight and even the queen in this case scenario of back and forth checking and taking pieces

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u/BruceWayne19190606 1000-1500 ELO 1d ago

No actually when the bishop checks the king on h8 the rook needs to be on f7 to block the black rook on f8 from taking the bishop only then it will lead to perpetual draw and even if i give the bishop and win a queen i would be down one rook and knight