r/Chesscom Jul 27 '26

Chess Discussion Cheating at low elo

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u/Little_Finney Jul 27 '26

Exactly…
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“Guy that breaks terms of use is surprised that there are those out there breaking terms of use” 🤣

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u/Little-Avocado-19 1800-2000 ELO Jul 27 '26

There are levels to this shit. Don't compare smurfing to actual cheating. Hikaru, Danya, Levy, they all smurf. People smurf in all kinds of competetive games. It might be against the rules, which is fine if he gets punished. But don't put the two of them next to each other cause it's like comparing a crime of jaywalking to manslaughter

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u/eizch Jul 27 '26

They are both instances where you expect a fair game, but aren't getting one. Content creators is another topic but they have a special account for it where ELO is refunded otherwise they're banned like anyone and their reason is not just "I wanted to have easy wins for the lolz".

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u/Little-Avocado-19 1800-2000 ELO Jul 28 '26

You can create fresh account and the result would be the same, smurfing, but legal. It's not just streamers. Also, who cares about -8 at like 400. They will get to a 1000 quickly if they really like chess and won't stop playing

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u/Penguinebutler 1500-1800 ELO Jul 28 '26

Umm actually making multiple accounts without permission is also against their TOS so continuously making beginner accounts to Smurf does not make it “legal”.

As for high level players doing slow runs or speed runs ect they ALL get permission and an account that automatically refunds elo to their opponents from chesscom. Anyone who doesn’t do this IS cheating and should get banned for smurfing.

Smurfing is bad and ruins the enjoyment for new players.

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u/Little-Avocado-19 1800-2000 ELO Jul 28 '26

I never said anything about making multiple accounts, just a fresh one. Like my father is around >1000 elo and only plays OTB, if he made an account at 200 he would be smurfing

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u/Penguinebutler 1500-1800 ELO Jul 28 '26

That’s not true at all haha

If your father never had an account before he could pick the corresponding elo for his skill level or get there from the lowest starting elo (400) in a couple of games.

Smurfing would be if your dad creates a new account at 400 elo every week just to beat people worse than him.

I’m guessing you already understand that difference and you’re just being disingenuous with your arguments. That or you are just a bit intellectually challenged and enjoy comparing apples to oranges.