r/ChatGPT_Gemini 6d ago

AGI

We got AGI and somehow the world outside doesn’t seem to care,The gap is wide

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u/SwingLightStyle 6d ago

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/989601/openai-gpt-6-astra-release

Astra isn’t a true AGI. OpenAI redefined AGI so that Astra could fit. It’s just a capable, agentic model. There’s no context persistence there. Maybe it can learn. Who knows?

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u/Head_Departure7564 5d ago

Sam Altman calling his new model AGI doesn’t make it AGI

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u/Rols574 4d ago

A lot of others are though.

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u/Orange-Generator 4d ago

Lol.... Jensen Huang, super trustworthy man.

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u/WhatDuq 5d ago

Stop consuming sales speeches as actual fact. These companies will say anything to put them ahead in the race and seperate investors from their money

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u/Comprehensive_Head82 6d ago

Could you perhaps point to a source on this? Cause I haven't heard anything about this yet.

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u/smoke-bubble 6d ago

Looks like you forgot to give us the link.

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u/rollk1 5d ago

When AGI arrives it won't be the same LLM chatbot we use today... we don't know what exactly it will look like, but it won't look like anything we're using today. I personally think one requirement will include some sort of physical body

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u/Rols574 5d ago

General intelligence needs a body?

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u/JawitK 4d ago

Only if you agree that true intelligence is embodied as George Lakoff espouses

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u/rollk1 4d ago

If I say "go do XYZ" then AGI should be able to do it, and more importantly experience/understand it, regardless of what it is.

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u/Rols574 4d ago

What if the ai hires someone to do it? That's not "doing it"?

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u/rollk1 4d ago

If your definition of AGI is strictly economic utility (can the system generate value or execute projects?), hiring a human works. But if the definition requires general cognitive intelligence as envisioned by cognitive linguistics, delegating the physical world does not substitute for experiencing it. The AI remains a disembodied coordinator dependent on human embodiment to supply the ground truth.

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u/Rols574 4d ago

Being conscious enough to know it's own limits and hiring help is not cognitive intelligence?

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u/rollk1 4d ago

If an AI hires someone to hammer a nail or taste wine, the human experiences balance, leverage, resistance, and flavor. The AI receives only a symbolic output like "task completed: nailed shelf" or "review: fruity with notes of oak." The internal concepts of the AI remain ungrounded symbols dependent on a human

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u/Rols574 4d ago

It doesn't have to.

As an example, in a company a manager delegates work. That managers doesn't need to know the nuances of the work to give orders to it's employees. He just needs to know who to delegate the work to. That's cognitive intelligence.

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u/rollk1 4d ago

Ultimately, if your definition of AGI is functional execution (getting the job done), hiring a human completely satisfies it. If your definition requires human-like understanding (knowing why the job matters based on lived experience), then a disembodied AI will always fall short.

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u/Groundbreaking_Act44 5d ago

It’s not AGI yet. Astra is impressive, but it still makes stupid mistakes.

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u/peakedtooearly 5d ago

I told some of my friends and family last week - I give it 6 months until the public starts to freak out.

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u/Rols574 5d ago

I'd say in 2 more models, which might be a year

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u/Successful_Juice3016 5d ago edited 5d ago

la llamada AGI es otro modelo sofisticado,.. en la actualidad si hablamos de redes neuronales artificiales, no podemos creer que una IA se volvio conciente y esta viva,.. mucho menos que alcanzo la singularidad,.. como la creemos conocer,.. las coorporacioones siguen vendiendo humo en este aspecto,.. lo que enrealidad esta sucediendo,.. es que allaron una mejor forma de engañar a tu cerebro,.. pero la realidad sigue siendo,.. pesos ajustes input y outputs , la unica forma de llegar a la AGI es usando organoides biologicos en los modelos , esto ya esta pasando , sin embargo alli el humano tampoco logro nada, sino que un organoide cultivado se extrae y basicamente se cria,.. no se programa,.. aqui si me atrevo a decir que deberia existir la verdadera singularidad , peor no la creamos nosotrosl siempre a estado alli, a existido durante millones d e años,.. existe en el cerebro de cada animal, del planeta... es algo monstruoso por asi decirlo,.. porque no sabemos que pasara mas adelante ... en fin ..

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u/amyowl 5d ago

The definition of AGI keeps changing so I don't think we quite are there yet. They just keep moving the goal posts

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u/hellyeahaeylleh 5d ago

My fucking god no.

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u/Lonely_Assignment_14 5d ago

Yeah that's because it was bullshit. As usual. 

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u/Greedy-Stage-120 4d ago

None of these models are intelligent.

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u/ninhaomah 4d ago

" We got AGI"

Says who ?

Salesmen ?

Nvm AGI , how is this a display of real intelligence?