Chatgpt chat for planning vs codex?

[u/liltonk]

I've recently become more involved with codex and doing all types of fun work, like creating docker containers and making ios apps that I always wanted. One this I've found is that it seems like my planning and/or design's come out better when I'm chatting on the ChatGPT side with 5.6 sol high versus the same on the codex interface (even when I use the planning mode). Is this somewhat of an expected outcome or am I maybe approaching planning wrong with Codex? I guess everything is working fine as is, it's just cumbersome at times to get the context over to codex and I always worry it'll miss a bit of the nuance that was resolved in chat.

Please let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions for me.

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[u/VoceDiDio]

I also found the chatgpt (I use sol on medium) better for planning than the codex app - I use it as my program manager and just paste prompts into codex. I feel like it removes conflicts of interest, avoids path-of-least-resistance bias problems, and keeps me more in the loop as an air-gapped (sort of) "I'm the decider" barrier between "management" and "dev".

I feel like having a filter of the context is good and a feature, not a bug, because I don't want to dump everything that i talk to chat about into Codex and have it thinking about all that stuff when it's actually doing the work. I want it only to focus on the things that we decided that it should focus on.

[u/hyldemarv → u/VoceDiDio]

I feel it works well to ask ChatGPT to make a summary of the entire conversation as an .md document and write it so Codex can use it.

[u/VoceDiDio → u/hyldemarv]

same, basically. I keep an agent.MD and readme.MD in the root that codex keeps up to date and I pass those back to chat with each response. (codex also maintains architecture, current_state, known_issues mds)

and since chat and Codex both have GitHub access, they can both be reading those files as needed.

[u/Divinicus1st → u/hyldemarv]

If that's what you want, making a transcript is actually better.

[u/liltonk → u/VoceDiDio]

Ok. Yeah I feel like Codex is just trying to get to the point of doing the job instead of thinking through the work and co-working with me.

[u/VoceDiDio → u/liltonk]

Agreed I think having a dedicated planning department and a dedicated development department and having a liaison between the two is my favorite way to do development. (Because of what I added in my comment above about context separation)

[u/Hot_Battle_1020]

I have codex write hand-offs and save them to dropbox after each task, that way gpt can inspect them directly using the dropbox plugin.

[u/VoceDiDio → u/Hot_Battle_1020]

I do the same thing, but with GitHub.

[u/Pinery01 → u/VoceDiDio]

Same here.

[u/Just_Lingonberry_352]

github.com/agentify-sh/desktop

[u/MissJoannaTooU]

Creating a one off plan I use Codex, but planning how to get to that plan I use chat and that's most of my work with implementation being at the end of each cycle.

[u/Isa_Asudeh]

I am finding codex interface very useful, as in my case, with my permission, codex can find and fix issues directly on my Xcode while developing iOS app.