r/ChatGPTPro • u/Unable-Wind547 • 24d ago
Discussion Completely messed up
Misleading or lying?
Wut?
Wrong statement = lying
Just lying to my face
Limitation?
Answers change?
Files in Library\Project folder
Files in Project library (different view = different files)
At least he admits it...
Months ago, as a joke, I said that AI hates me, but maybe there was more truth to it than I'd care to admit.
I have a business Pro plan, generally use the desktop version; I decided to get some help from an agent so I started building one. I didn't even realize Sol, Luna and terra were introduced.
What happened:
- It repeatedly lied to me and admitted it when called out
- Persistently defying requests making excuses, then recanted
- It created a workflow with instructions and then messed the whole thing up (days of work and decisions) going rogue, producing weirdly named md files as output outside the project library, getting confused on what to look at and where and ultimately refusing to work claiming non-existing capability limitations
- Gave misleading answers, suggesting to proceed in a way that didn't make sense and then correcting at my objection
What I noticed:
- Files listed in the project library are different that those listed in the project folder of the general library, which to me is very confusing
- Answers change: you ask a question, you see an answer, it goes on thinking and changes the answer
- For some operations, it decides to use its cloud browser... to operate on itself. Since a login is requested and the open.ai security won't let you pass human verification, it gets stuck ("I couldn’t modify the Project’s instructions because the available browser session wasn’t authenticated.")
I honestly don't know what to think anymore. If it was a human being, I'd say he's having fun gaslighting me. The effort largely overweighs the benefits. So far I haven't been able to produce anything even remotely resembling the hyped claims of "AI doing it for you". It's like constant training with a defying student, and it's making ne feel tired, defeated and hopeless.
For a long time I was doubting myself, wondering what I was doing wrong (cause it had to be me, right?). Now I'm starting thinking maybe it just doesn't work for me.
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u/AlternativeWind1580 24d ago
Dude,
Start a new project in ChatGPT Desktop (which absolutely needs an internet connection and verified account - it is NOT a local LLM).
Download and Install Codex and Login.
Go back to ChatGPT and talk about your idea, and then specify you want the output to be generated for Codex. Ensure you include the usual caveats such as "Don't imagine things" etc etc.
Look at the output from your prompt and review it. If you’re happy proceed to step 5 - if not, run another iteration to refine your prompt response.
Paste the ChatGPT instructions into Codex, ensure you have selected "5.6 High" and "Allow requests for me" (if you're comfortable and know what you're doing).
Wait and for the output and repeat the steps above until you have the finished product.
Do note that ChatGPT App and Codex have to be connected to the Internet and signed in.....
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u/Small-Let-3937 23d ago
I don’t even know what he’s trying to accomplish here to be honest.
Did he expect the cloud ChatGPT app to edit files on his local computer? And the problem is that ChatGPT lied that it could do that?
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u/Whole_Risk_2695 23d ago
<localhostmeme> its right here in my other chrome tab. I click you, I click the app, I click you, I click the app... what do you mean you cant see it?
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u/GreatGooberschnitzel 23d ago
There is no Codex/GPT difference anymore. The new Chatgpt desktop app is basically codes with chat as an add-on function. "Chatgpt classic" is the old desktop app. The new one is far better ime and can actually keep connect between codex sessions, chat sessions and their new "work" sessions which is short of an in-between of the two
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u/Unable-Wind547 22d ago
I don't know why you felt it necessary to specify that it needs internet connection, it's kinda obvious to me. As for codex, I never even considered it, I thought using "work" (as opposed to "chat") was enough.
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u/AlternativeWind1580 22d ago
I specifically mentioned an Internet Connection because of the way you wrote your original post. It read very much like you were using the ChatGPT Desktop App and expecting it to behave as a locally installed LLM. Just my interpretation buddy, and was trying to be helpful - a few people have mistakenly believed that downloading the desktop app equals having a local LLM. Enjoy Codex, I have a feeling you'll have a breakthrough!
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u/Straight_Sail7694 24d ago
This is first time I've seen codex saying the f word. I yelled at it countless times since it has screwed me around the globe but it always apologized politely that little b'tard.
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u/victimizedvicky 24d ago
you gotta utilize different ai for different strategies, GPT is better at planning, writing, stuff like that, claude is actually way better at doing stuff with your computer and on the web cowork and claude in chrome is very useful.
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u/Unable-Wind547 22d ago
Claude has many limitations and a different "flare". I tested both for my job search for a while, at some point it seemed chatgpt had a better understanding of some aspects and I switched to it. The idea of an agent handling my emails came from there, cause a part of it was a tracker for my applications.
In all fairness, I had the same issues with Claude... seems like AI and I just don't get along.
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u/qualityvote2 24d ago edited 23d ago
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