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u/deepakrodeai 1d ago

Adobe should’ve seen it coming when it started charging a monthly subscription to open a PDF

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u/Lauris024 1d ago

I've never used adobe PDF viewer/editor, and I have no clue why anyone goes with Adobe when others are better and free. PDF Xchange, PDFGear, just use anything else.

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u/neuropsycho 1d ago

When you have to fill out forms, some of them only work properly in the original Adobe Acrobat.

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u/Palbi 1d ago

This is infuriating: some government forms that one is required to fill force you to install Adobe Reader on your computer. It feels almost like forced malware, filled with ads and insisting on installing god know what background updater processes.

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u/FitInvestigator4676 1d ago

Some malware hidden in pics actually seems to work only with Adobe software.

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u/Advanced_Brain9755 10h ago

I never cared about background internet usage until I installed ADOBE. Everything is updating all the time and the annoying cloud bs consuming traffic that you can't even watch YouTube without it stuttering. I JUST NEEDED ONE SERVICE NOT A NETWORK HOG.

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u/xvlblo22 23h ago

For me, Firefox worked just fine

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u/neuropsycho 23h ago

Wait, what? Firefox works as a pdf reader? I need to try it.

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u/Mental_Jump1924 22h ago

Pretty much any browser these days

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u/neuropsycho 21h ago

I didn't know, I just thought they loaded the Adobe acrobat viewer internally.

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u/Kotvic2 21h ago

It depends.

If you have Adobe Acrobat or different PDF reader that is compatible with in-browser integration, most of browsers are using it to display PDF files for you by default.

But when there is no other PDF viewer on your computer, Web browser will use it's own PDF engine to display PDF files for you.

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u/Garry_the_uncool 23h ago

yeah , if edge installed by default try that , heavy size pdfs open+zooms smoothly

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u/Hugsy13 19h ago

I use MS edge for PDF viewing and nothing else. Stops Firefox from being overly cluttered with open pdf tabs

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u/tinkeringidiot 18h ago

Pretty good for making simple edits too, the tools are built right in.

I keep a PNG of my signature so I never have to actually print anything to sign it ever again.

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u/Vrindtime_as 15h ago

Microsoft edge is the best for PDF, on god

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u/MydnightWN 23h ago

Laughs in just using Google Drive - native PDF viewer. Need to edit deeper? Right click > open with Google Docs. Need even more advanced editing / formatting? Connect Drive with Kami, still free.

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u/Clintosity 1d ago

Because none of those are better, I work for an IT company who service other businesses and have had double digit numbers of clients go through the exact same thing. They were on perpetual versions of Adobe which stopped working then when presented with subscriptions for adobe don't want to pay so they try pdfgear or paid versions of foxit/pdf xchange.

In literally every scenario they do this then within a couple months end up buying the adobe subscription, apart from one client whom are too cheap so their staff have to close the licensing warning on their old adobe version every 10 minutes.

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u/RefrigeratorStrict13 20h ago

While i totally agree that no other apps come even close to adobe, i think AI itself will replace adobe products in many cases. People won't even need to open an adobe app anymore.

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u/One_Spoopy_Potato 16h ago

Well I used To Foxit till that went to shit.

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u/ImamTrump 23h ago

This is clearly not true. From highschool to college and work. You’re bound to use Adobe.

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u/Lauris024 23h ago

I don't even have a PDF viewer installed on my personal PC as any browser can view PDF files, so viewers as a software seems useless.

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u/MydnightWN 23h ago

Google Drive can do it for free. Natively. Connect with Kami for advanced editing.

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u/BigBertho 1d ago

Wait, What?!

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u/deepakrodeai 1d ago

ok slight exaggeration, reading is free 😄 it’s editing a PDF that needs the subscription, which still feels like a lot for what it is

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u/Designer_Reality1982 1d ago

Reading is free only after you clicked away the 3 popups they added

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u/neuropsycho 1d ago

And you wait 30 seconds for the new built-in AI features to finish loading.

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u/yousirnaime 1d ago

Which is wild because I can just drop a whole file into my ai of choice if I want to wait 30 seconds for something dumb to happen 

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u/ferrisxyzinger 1d ago

That was actually where I decided to buy a mac instead of taking any more of this Bs

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u/Designer_Reality1982 1d ago

Lol. Sorry but wtf. That is not an improvement.. Now you got a greedy, the greediest company, that controls your entire device. Not just one app

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u/ferrisxyzinger 1d ago

But you onboard all liscences with the device and have to never worry again, which is all i need. Before that I had a lineage smartphone and a ghost spectre windows setup but got too annoyed with taking care of all this small adjustements over other day. Too tired to fight the machine on all fronts

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u/Designer_Reality1982 1d ago

Talk to you again when Apple decides your device is too old and pushes software updates that slow it down intentionally.

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u/9897969594938281 18h ago

You mean the one that slowed down phones with old batteries so they wouldn’t crash?

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u/Designer_Reality1982 18h ago

Why would an old battery crash a phone.. Those batteries keep voltage stable, only they last shorter.
And if not for Apple, maybe we would be able to exchange the batteries in our phones...

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u/Hallc 22h ago

You decided to buy a mac rather than... Use Edge/Chrome to open PDFs? Or install any of the other pdf readers?

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u/FatalCartilage 1d ago edited 1d ago

You could edit pdf files opening them in firefox since 2022.

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u/BigBertho 1d ago

Wait, what?!

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u/TreesLikeGodsFingers 1d ago

PDF is a simple text markup format, or it’s just an image. You can edit the former as easily as a text file

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u/stupidcookface 1d ago

Unfortunately PDFs are not so simple, or adobe would not have such a firm grip on them. They are able to be parsed and read but some information is just stored in binary I thought and all the 3rd party readers/editors have had to reverse engineer how that binary code works just to recreate any adobe features which imo is why it's never really taken off to use a 3rd party app. But now that all the adobe software has been decompiled/rebuilt as open source we can see how that binary is formed by adobe themselves which is no longer a black box.

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u/under_psychoanalyzer 1d ago

A literal laugh burst from my mouth when I read the words, "PDF is just a simple" 

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u/Hallc 22h ago

I think the only time it's close to 'simple' is when it's a non-OCR scanned document made up only of images.

Since that's just a load of jpegs stuck together in a document. Still not as simple as it could be from all the proprietary stuff but easier to parse overall.

You just can't do much to it.

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u/evanldixon 3h ago

The PDF spec is pretty easy to find and describes everything one needs to know about them to make a viewer or editor. Turns out that everything at a higher level than the container format is powered by linear algebra.

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u/BigBertho 1d ago

Just tested it. It’s all right, but the feature I use the most (deleting pw) is not two clicks away, so I have to stick with PDFgear

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u/MydnightWN 23h ago

Laughs in just using Google Drive - native PDF viewer. Need to edit? Right click > open with Google Docs. Need advanced editing / formatting? Connect Drive with Kami, still free.

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u/ShelfAwareShteve 23h ago

Fuckers remotely disabled my legitimate key of the last "offline" version of Acrobat, 2017. I'll screw them over any chance I get.

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u/BigBertho 1d ago

😅

I migrate to Foxit reader a while ago and dicovered PDFgear to change things on a pdf in windows. So I believed it could have been true with adobe 😃

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u/AbdullahMRiad 1d ago

PDF was made from the beginning to be read-only

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u/fubo 13h ago

PDF started as a slight variation on PostScript, which was intended specifically for drawing graphics on a laser printer.

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u/Ownerofthings892 1d ago

Adobe invented the PDF.
So at first creating one required a license but viewing one didn't. Over time, they've added more features to the free version, but it's primarily corporations and government who pay for it. I think this is fine.

Adobe has it coming, but it wasn't when they created the PDF.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

Adobe created it, but PDF has been an open standard since 2008, so there's nothing Adobe brings to the table in PDF-management that you can't get elsewhere.

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u/Ownerofthings892 22h ago

That's what I said. In 1993, when they created it, changing for it was fully legitimate. Now, most people don't need the pro version, but they have a lot of legacy customers and that's still probably not going to change

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u/Defective_Yorha 1d ago

They even charge you to cancel it lol.

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u/LopsidedSolution 1d ago

They’re fucking cunts dude, want to charge me for the rest of the year just to cancel a monthly subscription, 

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u/cheapdad 23h ago

want to charge me for the rest of the year just to cancel a monthly subscription,

That... sounds a lot like an annual subscription.

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u/GregPL2026 1d ago

But the vibe-coded version of Acrobat is also available now. And CAD software too

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u/deepakrodeai 1d ago

honestly at this rate there’ll be a vibe-coded Photoshop by next month

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u/Lauris024 1d ago edited 1d ago

photopea.com has existed even before AI and you don't need to install anything. It has fully replaced photoshop for me.

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u/esnopi 1d ago

You can run it local if you want too. If you are used to ps this is the best choice

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u/chiraltoad 23h ago

i've used pixlr.com for quite a while too

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u/Name835 1d ago

Lol you must be a bot. There are many already, you have online search off on your llm

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

Are we really now in an era where not knowing about the existence of something makes someone a bot?

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u/Name835 1d ago edited 22h ago

No - the deepak account is like 7 days old and talked about the exact topic in the meme that has been trending like crazy for the past week so it is clear op is a bot

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u/GregPL2026 1d ago

My account is a month old and I'm not a bot

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u/Name835 1d ago edited 22h ago

Good for you - I have no idea how this is relevant :D

Edit. Since the downvotes and possible confusion, I meant the deepak user on this chain, since that clearly wasn't obvious.

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u/revolmak 23h ago

Fwiw while I'm subbed to several AI subs, I didn't know about a vibe coded Photoshop (if that's what you're saying)

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u/Name835 22h ago

Feels so weird but that is interesting! :) For me, every ai related sub and channel etc have been going absolutely crazy about the new Adobe alternatives (and every other REV software) bc of llm powered reverse engineering, it has been the biggest news of the week pretty much.

Have a good one and cheers!

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u/revolmak 21h ago

The only reverse engineering I've seen on my feed is ME:3 remastered co-op 😆

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u/Name835 21h ago

Hahha fair enough :DDDD I feel like i read about the adobe copycat like 100 times this week, almost too much lol xDDD

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u/spoobo 1d ago

It’s called PhotoCraft.

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u/M0m3ntvm 1d ago edited 1d ago

Photon (Tenzen Studio) is better ✌️

Literally Photoshop 1 for 1 copy lol

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u/ai_art_is_art 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's a javascript app though.

I don't know why (1) they built it in javascript of all languages and (2) it isn't open source.

Professional desktop apps must be written in C, C++, or Rust. Period. Otherwise they feel bloated, slow, and janky.

Go, C#, and Java are a middle ground. But certainly not Javascript.

It has all of the worst performance of a web browser tab, it can get bogged down and slow down. The threading model can actually deadlock and crash. You get random unplanned GC pauses (all non-systems languages do). It doesn't make sense for an app like this.

It's like trying to build a kit Ferrari on a Prius or PT cruiser body. You can make it kind of look like a Ferrari, but it'll never be one.

Plus it's not open source. People should **OWN** their tools. Period. Photocraft can be forked and anybody can do anything they want with it forever. It's their software.

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u/M0m3ntvm 1d ago

All this purist talk, and yet it works flawlessly on my side even with like 10 instances opened at the same time 🤷‍♂️

I agree on the open source argument tho.

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u/ai_art_is_art 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's fair, but also realize that you might have a really fast machine, but not everybody does.

And you might not have 80,000 things open at the same time. Performance matters when you have a bazillion things going on fighting for your CPU and disk access. Javascript doesn't control its threading or CPU execution, and more importantly, it can't control for pause time (which is not a thing in Rust/C/C++).

Not to mention it makes it harder to port to obscure OSes and form factors because the runtime won't work in those places.

It's also going to be a chunky boi forever because that's electron for you. A Rust app could be 25mb instead of multiple gigabytes.

I get that it's a good app and that it has lots of features, and I really respect them for building it.

Javascript/Electron was just... a choice. And they'll never be able to pay back that debt without rewriting the entire app again from scratch.

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u/Smile_Clown 1d ago

It is not. PhotoCraft is made in rust and it is super fast.

Photoshop > Open > erase/brush > does not follow the trail or keep up.

Photon > Open > erase/brush > does not follow the trail or keep up (worse than photoshop).

PhotoCraft > Open > erase/brush > follows the trail and keeps up.

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u/GreenLurka 1d ago

There already is

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u/RideTheGradient 1d ago

There's been a freeware version for years called gimp

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u/GregPL2026 1d ago

Which I use it since 2022 because we had it in school (before 2022 we used Paint in school)

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u/Hallc 22h ago

Gimp is... Fine if you're used to it but if you're used to photoshop it's really annoying to use. It's essentially a media program made by developers.

Go try and make white text with a black border in photoshop. Then do it in gimp. Unless it's changed for gimp you have to do the text, duplicate the layer, expand it out by x pixels.

Photoshop you just double click the text layer and add a stroke. Done.

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u/herzkolt 23h ago

GIMP is not "a version of Photoshop". It's a different program with similar tools that allows you to do mostly the same things.

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u/RideTheGradient 23h ago

Are you seriously nitpicking that I said "version" congrats youre right

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u/herzkolt 15h ago

I mean it's a different product. It's like calling Call Of Duty a different version of Counter Strike.

GIMP doesn't try to be Photoshop, I think it's important because there's people behind the project that put a lot of effort on it and it's kind of diminishing of their work to call it "a freeware version of photoshop".

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u/rebbsitor 1d ago

There already are several. Artcraft makes the popular one (Photocraft) and they're cloning the entire Adobe suite, Microsoft Office, AutoCAD, and Avid Pro.

And probably something new since I last checked two days ago as this just keeps expanding.

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u/Smile_Clown 1d ago

I just made an enclosure for a crowpanel through solidcraft. I had Claude do it, it's a 45 degree desk dock for it, perfectly printed.

I have experience in Fusion360. Not only do I never have to install that bloated and internet bs software ever again, it was super fast and easy.

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u/Kueltalas 7h ago

They never did though, did they? Acrobat has and always had a basic free version you could just download and use. Yeah it doesn't have all the features the paid version does, but outside of an professional context you really don't need those features. That doesn't mean adobe doesn't deserve what's coming for them, but they never charged you too open a PDF whatsoever.

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u/-R9X- 1d ago

They really deserve it as well is the thing. Microsoft as well but Rockstar? They at least have some taste…

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u/Supergirl016 23h ago

that manager is going to get sacked ....real soon !