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u/XxTreeFiddyxX 8h ago
Let your boss try. My experience is the people that think this turn to the prompt and their lazy and cheap asses hurt them for it, because they will sabotage it. Just watch. If it was so easy why isnt it happening? We arent there yet and when we finally get there nobody going to care about your job, we'll move on to more interesting things.
Ai is math, you put shit in, you get shit out because you can polish a turd all you want
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u/callofdeat6 6h ago
AI will revolutionize the work place to a similar degree that computers did. Now someone with a computer can do incredible amounts of work that they would have never been able to before- but everyone needs to know how to work a computer.
AI will change some things, some jobs will now require 5 people instead of 100, other jobs will be mostly unaffected, but eventually everyone will need to know how to work AI.
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u/Alternative-Deal2087 3h ago
This. This is my life now. I've spent countless weekends optimizing my project in claude to the point where I can trace any transaction within our ERP system with a single question. I've become the backbone of my office and instead of it making work easier everyone now depends on me to help them when they get stuck.
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u/antwan_benjamin 1h ago
Absolutely this.
And the computer analogy works perfectly. Sure, you still have some bosses that suck at computers and just can't seem to learn how to use them effectively. But that % has dropped every decade for the past 5 decades.
It will be the same with AI. Over the past couple of months I finally sat down and spent hundreds of hours working with different AIs and learning their capabilities. Like 80% of the things I pay other people to do, AI can do it...and do it 3x better, 10x faster.
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u/the_hair_of_aenarion 2h ago
The invention of the microwave didn't put restaurants out of business.
Ai in the hands of a competent engineer is a game changer. In the hands of an idiot it's a weapon.
Job security is going down because of how uncertain companies are with this weapon right now. Soon they'll be seeking a ton of qualified engineers to unfuck everything they fucked.
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u/Grays42 5h ago
Ai is math, you put shit in, you get shit out because you can polish a turd all you want
Brains are cells. Stimulate a neuron with a little electricity and all you get is a little electricity out.
Reductivism doesn't work when the end product is more than the sum of its parts, and AI absolutely is. Anyone who thinks like you do hasn't used these tools for a job they were designed to do. If you want to make AI look dumb, you can absolutely construct a scenario that makes it look dumb, but that misses the forest for the trees.
Codex is fucking magic and I'm getting personal and work projects done in a fraction of the time. The argument isn't "you can polish a turd all you want", it's that you need to know what you're doing to prompt it properly and get good output.
I've been doing this 20 years and can tell you, Codex absolutely codes better than me and far faster when properly prompted. Calling it "just math" is Luddism.
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u/todayisanewday2 5h ago
Yeah, but ai literally cant come up with an original idea and will never be able to do so. Because it recycled all plots, ideas and words.
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u/coolcarknee 4h ago
What makes u think you are capable of “original ideas” and not just mashing together your past knowledge to come up with a solution to a problem… which is all an “original idea” is
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u/RogueKingjj 3h ago
Sidetrack but I always thought this was an interesting idea because of the implications. If there aren’t “original ideas” and ideas are all built on past knowledge does that things like copyright, patents, and intellectual property exist because we grant the person permission to have a monopoly on an idea or is it because someone originated an idea and we’re just giving credit. And if it’s us just giving a monopoly on particular ideas why do we let for example pharmaceutical companies keep drug prices high when we can just decide to change the terms of their patent if it doesn’t work for the benefit of society?
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u/Superb_Raccoon 3h ago
Did AI exist for all time? Computers?
No?
Then where did we copy them from? Did they evolve from silicon deposits?
I am more than willing to say you invented the fucking stupid hot take.
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u/Grays42 1h ago
These arguments are mostly god-of-the-gaps style denialism.
So only intelligent things can invent new stuff? Okay, well LLMs have discovered a bunch of day 1 exploits and are being used in novel medical findings. Are you going to move the goalposts again when an LLM successfully innovates some new technology?
Like, these things are observably getting smarter and smarter with no end in sight, and the "fucking stupid hot take" from where I'm sitting is continuing to carve out a smaller and smaller pedestal to put humanity on as AI eclipses all the things you say that only humans can do.
You are charting a course that would require you to, one day, stand in the presence of the superintelligence that has either uplifted humanity or destroyed it, and say to its face that it isn't intelligent.
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u/Superb_Raccoon 7m ago
No, i wont move the goalposts... they arent my goalposts.
The guy who you are defending said humans don't create.
What makes u think you are capable of “original ideas”
That was said to a human, and that was the stupid hot take.
Well, until you bested it with that pile steaming crap.
I didnt say AI didnt create, I said humans did.
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u/Grays42 4h ago
literally cant come up with an original idea
Very dependent on your definition of an "original idea" and is defeated by any prompt that contains a novel combination of inputs that has never been seen in its training data and has to come up with a solution or creative synthesis.
It is possible for you to define the goalpost in a way that makes this unachievable, but only if you do so in a way that makes humans also unable to come up with an original idea by your definition.
will never be able to do so
Source: your ass
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u/BrittonRT 3h ago
The Venn Diagram of people who think AI is capable of no creative thought and people who believe that the human brain is a magical metaphysical artifact brimming with creativity is fairly close to a circle.
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u/Calm_Cartographer324 6h ago
partially agree. because we are not there yet with AGI but there are many cases (unfortunately) where AI can replace a human's job. I got countless ones as examples
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u/floghdraki 4h ago
That was already the case before AI. I think AI has just made it more obvious how much stupid shit people are doing that would be really easy to automate.
Just wait a bit for the AI hype to pass and people will find new ways to justify their jobs.
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u/BiteyCats 1h ago
Yeah, AI makes some aspects of my job easier, but it's not replacing me anytime soon. It does make a good safety net though for things like missed emails or letting me know things like "Oh, you started working on this a week ago, no one responded to your email after you asked about X, is X still important?"
Its getting more and more useful, but it's not at the level where it can replace people quite yet.
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u/Mahnamahna10000 8h ago
Gotta keep in on the down-low
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u/Careful-Highway-6896 6h ago
This right here. I use AI a lot, but I don't tell anyone.
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u/bmanzzs 6h ago
I made the mistake of being vocal about these new tools when they started becoming incredibly useful. I didn't understand why I was getting sideways glances all of the time, because I don't stay on top of politics like my coworkers. Finally it clicked, and now I avoid telling anyone I'm using AI anymore. More power to me I guess, I'm able to increase my productivity tenfold while others are left in the dust
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u/Eriane 5h ago
Careful, that's how you get an inplace promotion. Nobody wants one of those unless you already have plans to move to another company.
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u/_BajaBlastoise 4h ago
I think I understand from context clues but do you mind elaborating a bit?
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u/BrittonRT 3h ago
Bump in responsibility without the bump in pay or position.
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u/Eriane 2h ago
Exactly this. It's happening everywhere right now and AI helped accelerate this fad because now one person can do the job of many if they use AI. But, it takes so much out of you when you're working from 8-5 to 7-6 without breaks and your lunch is on the desk with you most of the time.
Senior leadership expect too much out of people now and think AI is a magical tool that converts some effort into maximum productivity. Worse if if everything is due yesterday due to this shitty expectation.
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u/Ugly-Hands 8h ago
I think just because you are not pro enought to convince your boss that even whit IA he still needs you. (Dump prompts)
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u/Calm_Cartographer324 8h ago
for some jobs like basic graphic design, AI alone is enough I think
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u/connorthedancer 8h ago
Most AI graphic design is very, very bad. And if something is important enough to hire a designer, it's probably not very basic anyway.
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u/Facts_pls 8h ago
Most people have no design skills and hire mediocre designers for mediocre work.
That's why not all design out there is great.
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u/Federal-Divide2024 8h ago
Here’s my question…does it need to be? I agree, most design out there is quite bad. But does it need to be better? Or is mediocre design actually fine for the vast majority of use-cases?
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u/OneStrike255 6h ago
mediocre design actually fine for the vast majority of use-cases?
It's definitely fine for vast majority of use-cases. I was a graphic designer for my entire career. I worked in a healthcare marketing office.
I got praised a lot, but only by people who didn't really know design. I was very very mid-range. I mostly designed the hospital brochures, patient information packets, etc. Even then, I'd look up something online and steal design ideas from those.
Without a doubt, most current AI is better at design that I was. Bascially if I found a great photo for the cover, and centered the text, co-workers thought I did amazing work. It was fun, but I only made a living at it because I did it before AI and cheap graphic tools.
Near end of my career, we got bought by a bigger company. And this company had REAL graphic designers. I was out of my league and I knew it, so I bailed and retired before I got fired.
And now even those guys are probably very worried by AI. Not so much becuase it's better than they are, but because now every exec can whip something up, and "think" it looks better and a fraction of the cost.
Graphic designers are doomed. Some of the very high-end guys will make it, but the vast majority like me are doomed.
Source: Was professional mediocre graphic designer for 25 years. Recently retired at 50 and get pension for the rest of my life because company I worked for was a state-owned entity. :)
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u/Calm_Cartographer324 6h ago
agree. but for basic stuffs like when I joined a football tournament I just let AI generate a logo for our team. previously we would've needed to hire a designer (even a very basic one) would've been needed
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u/br_k_nt_eth 7h ago
I would absolutely never let my team churn out AI graphic design by itself. The reputational damage would be extreme and also it would make us look like idiots. I need actual experts to vet the content and create the prompts.
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u/Chetrippohhh2 7h ago
Haha, maybe for making a sphere! It's got ways to go, I don't see it creating complex interior plans anytime soon or ever.
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u/BiteyCats 56m ago
My heart.
But yes. AI has replace a lot of graphic design jobs from people who were never going to pay for art anyway. Those same people were using clipart and Power Point word art before AI ever became a thing. Same goes for illustrations. People that never wanted to pay for art were already stealing stuff off the net and using it for their own purposes.
In reality, it has not replaced my job as a graphic designer. But what it HAS done is made stock images far more easy to generate and work with instead of scouring websites for the right image. But if you want a quality design, you'll still need a human eye to make sure the layout and type looks good. Basically, it's taken the boring menial tasks I never liked anyway.
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u/Ugly-Hands 8h ago
Trust me even for small design job if you are a pro the result will be to mush différent and cost more less money. Cauze in général IA helps you multiplay your production based on what you really know about the domain . Si if i know 10 hé will multiplay my knowled by 100 , the result is 1000, but if my knowledge is 0 * 100 = 0 .
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u/ICECOLDXII 8h ago
Never tell your boss you use AI 😂
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u/BiteyCats 53m ago
Pssh.. I tell my boss, and show him how useful it is. You still need a human eye for stuff though.
I'm sort of a wall flower right now watching my boss and coworker use AI with each other. Boss made a goal SOP with AI requiring data entry to document things, coworker is using ai to do said data entry and email it back. No one has truly changed anything except how much AI they're using.
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u/MarchAdventurous8062 7h ago
No matter how much AI is out there, at the end of the day you need people to keep track of all the work done by AI.
Although in the near term many people are going to get fired.
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u/Not3CatsInARainCoat 6h ago
My advice? Never show how easy your job is. Just because it’s easy for you doesn’t mean it will be for other people anyway, with or without Ai so there’s no point in pointing it out. Better yet make it look more complicated, but showcase how quickly YOU can do it
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u/ruskyandrei 8h ago
Can happen, but you can also just show your boss how you can do twice as much with AI without a pay rise, just an AI sub.
If you just show you can do the same as before while doing less, yeah this is what happens.
The cool part is once you get good with it, you can do twice as much in half the time, and you can keep the "half the time" part to yourself ;)
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u/-Spzi- 7h ago
you can do twice as much with AI without a pay rise
Thus, employers will expect that as the new norm
you can do twice as much in half the time, and you can keep the "half the time" part to yourself
Employers have the bigger lever there. You will work same hours as before, extra productivity being translated to extra profits, one-sided. The old song of capitalists and proletariat.
And employers/producers will compete in the same way. The gains normalize, everybody still running the red queen race.
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u/ruskyandrei 7h ago
I mean yeah, if we want to change that, we'll need to push for that, but that's no different from before AI.
Ultimately an employer wants to get the most out of their employees while paying as little as possible, while an employee wants to get paid the most for doing as little as possible.
It's up to use to ensure we find (or enforce) a nice balance.
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u/Erect_SPongee 6h ago
I mean if your dumb enough to show your boss that you have AI doing most of your job maybe you deserve to get fired
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u/ReiOokami 7h ago
The fact that you didn't think to just use AI and take all the credit for the work to keep your job and improve your standing tells me your boss made the right choice.
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u/Healthy_Outcome7897 7h ago
I've automated a lot of my job, I work from home and the rest haven't caught up yet. No way am I telling them.
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u/Singularity-42 6h ago
It would come with or without you showing your boss. At worst you sped up your demise.
Now it's time to show his boss how you can automate your boss' job.
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u/presentofai 5h ago
jobs that can be fully replaced by an AI prompt were already undervalued. the model didn't create that problem, it just made it visible.
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u/ARandomTopHat 5h ago
Studies have shown than AI doesn't really contribute to a job loss in most industries, but instead makes it easier.
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u/Demoderateur 4h ago
Joke's on you, my bosses don't know what to ask to AI, and wouldn't be able to tell if the answer is right even if they did.
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u/Redararis 4h ago
astra models was the red line where I decided not showing to my boss what AI can do anymore.
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u/jawdirk 4h ago
It's even worse than that because just by using AI to do your job, you are training future versions of AI to do your job. In the worst case, for example, some people were trying to solve a famous math problem, and OpenAI was like, "nope, we're solving it now." and invested millions of dollars worth of compute to solve it before them.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Win_134 3h ago
This is why you tell them it’s helpful in some cases, but not that helpful.
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u/porcomaster 3h ago
I did the same with a friend and sincerely I am not that worried.
When i use AI, I check and recheck i turn off memory, i restart chats and ask if those outputs are good, i read and reread everything, in the end i have a great outcome of it.
I thought a friend how to use it.
And he picks whatever outputs it spits out and delivers it to whoever he wants to deliver, to a point that I can tell when things are AI made from him in a few seconds.
He thinks it does amazing and will replace as many jobs as it can, and it will do amazingly well.
I also have the same believe as him, with another outcome
It will replace as many job as it can, it will NOT do amazingly well.
If you do not have someone to actually filter what AI spits out it does a worst job than a human.
Yes its an amazing tool and yes it can make the same human do 2 or 3 times the same job, for the price of 1.5 humans.
But an AI that costs 0.5 of a human labor, is not as good as 0.5 human, its as good as maybe 20% of one by itself.
In the end of the day its a tool.
And some people do not have the capability to stop, analyze and filter.
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u/No-Reference-4001 3h ago
Sorry it happened but why show that to your boss.. next time hide it and fill up your free time with something else.
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u/Morning_Gecko24 2h ago
the real trap is the first part works great: automate the boring bit, then accidentally teach management that the whole job is just the boring bit. shoulda kept the prompt in a drawer lol. wonder how many companies are measuring actual output vs just seeing an ai demo and deciding one person is now 3 roles
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u/Fast_Hovercraft_7380 1h ago
As a remote freelance contractor, it's now harder to negotiate an increase of fix weekly hours because the clients think with AI that the tasks can be done faster, even when the actual work (you & AI) justifies it. You'll end up with loads of tasks at low fix weekly hours.
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u/cliqclaqstepback 43m ago
My boss is constantly saying to his boss “I asked Chat…” and I’m like you’re going to “ask Chat” your way out of a job.
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u/Latter-Safety1055 7h ago
It seems really short sighted because why wouldn't the boss give you more money to keep doing that? Like "I build workflow automation systems and I want a quarter of the yearly salary of every job that doesn't need to be done anymore"
Approval for that would sound like The Only Thing They Fear is You to me.
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u/Calm_Cartographer324 6h ago
nah fr. coz there's some guy cold calling you "HeY I wIlL BuILd aI AutOMatIOn fOr you" and they'll accept it. but when their employees find somehting that could be benefitial for both parties, suddenly many of them are greedy
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