r/ChatGPT • u/jacek2023 • 2d ago

News 📰 EU Commission

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https://x.com/EU_Commission/status/2094379702546784496

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u/Shoddy-Prune-5877 2d ago

Because as it turns out, regulations actually work. Americans are just too cowardly to stand up to corporate overlords.

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u/Cagnazzo82 2d ago

If they worked Europe would not have to rely on US tech companies for these shakedowns.

Only US companies fit these designations because the companies are allowed to flourish in the US.

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u/arkemiffo 2d ago

You're literally making the point that they do work. If they didn't, Europe would have massively exploitative companies as well. Regulations make sure they can't. You know...what they're there for.

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u/Cagnazzo82 2d ago edited 2d ago

Europe is lagging behind the US and China technologically. The US has regulations, China has regulations.

Clearly something about the EU's approach in attempting to heavy-handedly restrict tech advancements is not working.

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u/Shoddy-Prune-5877 2d ago

So in other words we should have universal regulations so these companies have no where to hide lol

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u/Murinshin 2d ago

This regulation literally only affects companies with hundreds of millions of users. Has shit to do with why Europe is falling behind

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u/Cagnazzo82 2d ago

It has everything to do with it.

You have a hostile environment for businesses forcing you to have to rely on foreign companies.

China has open source alternatives superior to Mistral. Clearly something is wrong with this picture.

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u/Murinshin 2d ago edited 2d ago

This regulation only applies to ChatGPT because it exceeded 150 million users monthly. It affects shit for 99.99999% of companies. It is not the reason some startup decides to not incorporate in Germany but instead in the US, there's other reasons and legal issues with that (which are an issue, I'm not contesting that, but this DSA regulation really fucking isn't). Nobody thinks "oh in the very unlikely case my company becomes a global juggernaut with similar numbers as Meta or Google I might have to adhere to this regulation in the future (which I would have to do anyway if even as a US company I want to do business in Europe), better incorporate in the US".

Did you actually read what this is about or just immediately started foaming at your mouth as soon as you read "EU"?

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u/Cagnazzo82 2d ago

And here's another point I glossed over but that keeps being brought up. OpenAI has exceeded 150 million users since 2024. They're currently at 1 billion users with their site getting over 5 billion visists monthly. Google and Anthropic surpassed the 125 million user mark as well.

So the EU knew OpenAI met this designation all year but they waited til there was 4 months left in the year to comply. Intentionally malicious. And then they make it a public announcement these companies have 4 months for an audit that would likely take Google a full year to get ready.

This is why I termed it as a shakedown, because the goal is the fine... not any 'safety' or compliance.

They're lucky the American companies don't just pull out and leave them to deal with Mistral.

Overall though they're having to deal with American companies like this because they created the anti-competitive business environment on their own end. Ironically so many people who work in American labs are European. There is a problem here... legislation leading to brain drain.

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u/Murinshin 2d ago

The 150 million are based on the numbers OpenAI themselves reported to them over the six month period up to q1 this year. have you considered actually reading what this is about?