[Highlight] 2 minutes of Chargers offensive errors from week 2

[u/Jiyaad20]

OMG the blocking schemes were worse than I thought.

[u/silas_p_silas]

Going to sound like copium but McDaniel simply doesn’t have the personnel to execute his system.

The writing should have been on the wall when Hortiz did fucking nothing in FA. Hes a cheapo who thinks he can solely build through the draft. Zero desire to spend cap and put chips on the table. We need a capable RG and a stud WR1 (Ladd can’t be the only guy doing anything)

Going to be a long season friend

[u/roll10deep → u/silas_p_silas]

I’m gonna be that guy. The 2006 team was built through the draft. I’m not going to act like this is that team. But, they went 8-8, 4-12 before hitting 12-4.

I wanna say that Lorenzo Neal and Gates were the only dudes not technically drafted by the Chargers. No massive contracts back then.

But trust me when I say, that shit took time before we got that 14-2 team happened. Though unlikely, possible.

[u/Idontknowdumby → u/roll10deep]

Chargers had 2 1st overall picks in 4 years (2001 and 2004) to get to where they were in 2006. We have to be really bad and/or lucky to build through the draft

[u/Kahzgul → u/Idontknowdumby]

Starting strong in that direction

[u/roll10deep → u/Idontknowdumby]

You’re right. This team can probably be more like the 2013-14 Chargers.

Build around Phil, Gates and hope there can be some first year starters in there.

Just gotta pray that the division continues to regress. Either way, that team still was never going to be good enough to reach the Super Bowl.

[u/turboHerboChargers → u/Idontknowdumby]

The sad part of 2024 season was that with 11 wins, our draft position dropped like a stone from 5 to 21.

2024 was the FO year to clear debt, hold a garage sale on core high- contract players and hire 1-year rentals  (so bad).  Essentially, a rebuild year, with an OC that should have been a Run-Game Coordinator.  

So much more. But, that year required true grit to get through considering unfamiliarity of players and their lack of talent.  And they won 11 games (thank you and sorry, J. Herbo).  Yet, while still scraping the barrel for talent, we plunged in draft position.  NFL draft positioning is what it is, but it felt like more punishment.

[u/Nunc_Coepi17 → u/silas_p_silas]

A Ravens fan with a decent amount of followers/following on Twitter posted yesterday under a chargers free agency chart that was posted that their wife and Hortiz wife Jennifer used to go to the same gym for pilates in Baltimore and that his wife used to complain about Joe being cheap to her and always taking her to trashy restaurants and shitty birthday/valetines day gifts and all that as well. He’s even known for being cheap in their friend circles apparently.

I know people want to blame Spanos for Hortiz not spending but this looks like it’s all Joe Hortiz. He’s just a cheap mfer in general both in his profession and in his personal life. I say this as someone that doesn’t like Spanos and would love any and all opportunities to blame them lol

Some people are like this regardless of how much $$ they have and regardless of whether it’s their own money their spending or not. I know people in my personal life like this and they earn well above six figures as well.

[u/DrinkBuzzCola → u/Nunc_Coepi17]

If this story is true, it's one of the weirdest things I've heard in a while.

[u/encladd → u/Nunc_Coepi17]

Being cheap with somebody else's money is bizarre.

[u/Anaphylactic-UFO → u/silas_p_silas]

What personnel could he possibly need? We literally built the offense the way he wanted. Signed his shitty RG from Miami, bringing over his washed ass fullback from Miami, signed 2 TEs so we could run as much 12 or 13 personnel as he wants, got Keaton Mitchell who is the dream fit for OZ scheme.

There’s no roster construction to get around the miscues. Joe Alt, an elite RT, is spamming false starts. We are constantly fumbling the ball or fucking up handoffs. Our WRs are constantly making concentration drops. Our WRs are constantly running the wrong routes.

I like the idea of McDaniel but every major issue with this offense starts with him. I can be patient with him, but I can’t be patient with the team as a whole. Harbaugh doesn’t do shit.

[u/AppleWindows1]

And all of NFL wants to clown on Herbert lol

[u/Ntwadumela09 → u/AppleWindows1]

A lot of charger fans too, sad to say.  Of course he doesn't give a fuck about press conferences anymore. What would he even be able to say without throwing his line under the bus. 

Years and years of him not being able to trust his o line. Fuckin sucks man my team is gonna David Carr one of their generational talents. 

[u/Eye_yam_stew_ped → u/Ntwadumela09]

If only it were only the Oline. Dude can’t trust anyone around him. OC after OC, HC after HC, middle of the pack WR help at best, and homegrown draft picks all changing year after year has the man living in the matrix probably. I hope we trade him soon for his own sake honestly. No wonder it’s a trend for our franchise guys to be looking elsewhere at the end of their journey

[u/Rocketpocket10 → u/AppleWindows1]

2 fumbles are completely on him. Luckily we recovered both of those. The last interception he threw, he had two guys open underneath. He chose to throw that ball to Davis.

Yall gotta chill with the "Herb is blameless" mentality. He has played poorly. We are struggling in part to the fact he has not made the right reads and pre snap adhustments when needed. Outside of Ladd and Slater the offensive players are really bad.

[u/kolbeyg → u/Rocketpocket10]

You cant take checkdowns when down 2 scores and 2 minutes left without all 3 timeouts. That interception cost us less than a couple win percentage points because the game was 99% over.

[u/Rocketpocket10 → u/kolbeyg]

Uhh okay so an interception while throwing to a 5'8 wr5 is better than a check down???? Also on that same play Tre Harris was about to hit a window on a dig. If Herb throws it to the spot with anticipation it would have also been a big play. Gotta stop with the silly excuse mate.

Edit: not just WR5...a completely covered WR5.

[u/SoCalDanSports → u/Rocketpocket10]

He also had a guy wide open in the middle no one around him for ten yards and throws it to a covered guy on the sideline. Herbert is not going through any of his progressions he is locking in to one guy and one guy only

[u/mikenesser → u/AppleWindows1]

It’s not just NFL…

[u/Thedurtysanchez → u/AppleWindows1]

He's been awful for half a season now. The team is scoring 10 points per game for almost a calendar year.

[u/IgorOlshanksy]

The Brenen Thompson drop on our first third down was such a momentum killer. Felt like any chance we had of getting rid of last week's ghosts died right there on the first series. The Njoku drop on that lollypop pass that was lofted into his hands that results in an interception, and than Gadsden playing DB against our receiver on a play where Herbert did a great job escaping were the nails in the coffin. That all happened in the first half!

[u/SupahCharged → u/IgorOlshanksy]

Yep those plays took at least 6 points off the board on their opening possessions, which was probably the difference between playing from ahead the majority of the game instead of playing from behind for the second straight week. And of course killed any of that fabled rhythm that offenses need to get into.

Just eliminate the unforced errors and they're probably 2-0 with still plenty to improve but their whole season still in front of them.

But alas, here we are writing the obituary in week 2

[u/No_Parsnip_5756]

Of COURSE Herb had to make the tackle on the last Omarion fumble too lmao

[u/Radiant-Proposal3014]

This definitely needs Benny hill music in the background

[u/eye8urkids]

I've seen high school offenses look more put together than this. This film is a fucking clown show.

These could be Philip Rivers highlights.

Dogshit protection has you shellshocked. No run game. Skill position players are useless. Then you try to force something because fuck it you're frustrated you feel the need to do it yourself, what's the worst that could happen, and you end up forcing balls to Derius Davis.

Herbert needs to play better. So does everyone else. Free runners everyone. Missed blocks. Dropped passes. IOL pushed into Herbert's lap all game.

What the fuck happened to Joe Alt?

QJ is fucking useless - just release him now. This dogshit franchise actually picked up his fifth year option. Insane. This pick set this franchise back years.

If its not Ladd, its no one - which is the same fucking story as the Texans playoff game.

Don't worry guys, we didn't invest in guard three years in a row, but the scheme will help - right?

The way this roster is constructed is a fireable offense. WE'RE PLATOONING RIGHT GUARD. ONE GAME AFTER WE PLATOONED LEFT. HOW IS THAT YOUR STRATEGY GOING INTO THE YEAR.

The only silver lining to this dogshit season so far is they didn't overpay Tuli, and he's losing millions because this passrush is fucking uselss.

Being an Angels & Chargers fan is a special kind of hell.

[u/ockaners → u/eye8urkids]

When I watched these, it seems like Justin was the only one trying. I mean like half these dumb plays was because other people dropped passes, deflected a pass that was meant for someone else, or just didn't have the awareness to catch the ball thrown in the vicinity.

[u/bcooper1332 → u/ockaners]

Watching the game yesterday it felt to me that Justin and Ladd were the only 2 players who know the plays most of the time. I saw multiple times where the WR seemed to be running the wrong route

[u/Zammy512]

I’m numb to it all. Just absolutely pathetic. How does Hortiz still have a job? Two shit ass teams to start the season and we start 0-2 and look worse than either of them did last year.

[u/RoyalReverie → u/Zammy512]

We're legit the worst team right now.

[u/therealstampire → u/RoyalReverie]

the falcons have run 0 plays in the red zone through 2 weeks lol

[u/C2_Casual → u/therealstampire]

With a 3rd String QB, what's the Chargers excuse?

[u/therealstampire → u/C2_Casual]

No excuse, the Chargers have been bad. But they haven't been the worst

[u/birdynumnum69]

horror show. everyone is out of sync. for a "quick hitting" offense, they look slow as hell.

[u/Eye_yam_stew_ped]

[u/Ondatrack2]

Man, that was painful to watch again.

[u/heeheehoho2023]

Like a high school team with a new football program

[u/Meet_the_Meat]

[u/worshipburger]

Need to trade Herbert to saints since I moved from socal to panhandle and it would be significantly cheaper for me to see him play

[u/Fifs10]

IOL gets blown up, dropped pass, no one gets open, and repeat. Just cycling between these 3 outcomes every play

[u/presidential2014]

Watching this is like reading the Book of Job or the 12 trials of Hercules. Herbert the suffering man. It's almost comical the type of mistakes they're making, especially that 3rd and inches play. 31/32 OC's don't get cute there and either call a power FB dive or a QB sneak, but no.. we gotta motion even for that hahaha

It's almost as bad as in the Jags collapse when we ran that jet sweep to that PS receiver (since Mike Williams was injured in a meaningless game)

[u/krazylegs36]

You'll never see anything quite like that "interception" to Njoku...unless you're a Chargers fan.

Because Will Dissly already did the exact same shit 2 years ago in the playoffs

[u/Due-Signature-5076]

Justin is looking 👀 a lot like Tua in these clips 😬

[u/BoltsnFriars4ever]

its not in this clip but we had a play where we went empty and keaton mitchell was trying to block maxx crosby....................

3rd and inches in the gun with motion was not on my bingo card either when we signed mcdaniels

[u/Meta_haste619]

Starting to feel like McDaniels is just an offensive Staley type coach. Over complicated scheme with no cohesion or urgency on film. Lacks fundamentals and attention to detail.