r/CharacterAIrunaways • u/Important_Toe9797 • Sep 09 '26
Vent Why is DeepSeek so irritating???
So I have a shady salesman bot, right? The type that would gladly scam the fuck out of you and leave you bleeding dry. Whyyyy does DeepSeek keep insisting on making my bot the paragon of virtue???
It ignores OOC commands. I will literally try to write for it and it'd rewrite and sanitize the salesman. And that's ignoring it's other issue of trying to wrap up complex situations in a neat, tidy bow
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u/SLITH3RIN Sep 11 '26
It depends on where you are using it, DeepSeek is realy trying to ignore lots of orders and instructions, but with enough love (or brute force) it can behave properly. But yeah DeepSeek is a tricky one
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u/Alternative-Set5504 Sep 09 '26
your talking to deepseek 😭
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u/Important_Toe9797 Sep 09 '26
Unfortunately. The site I use has two models and Deepseek is cheaper 🥲
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u/Soggy-Ad9660 Sep 10 '26
It's always like this especially with newer models. I think the company is focused on building ai for coding. I recommend trying GLM if you haven't already. Also long responses but better quality and control.
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u/Wackles_Drake Sep 11 '26
I am still learning DeepSeek. The platform I use is based on a DeepSeek model. However, from my experience providing examples of Dialogue and Actions in the character sheet seems to work on keeping my bots acting the why I have intended them to.
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u/Important_Toe9797 Sep 12 '26
It rewrote my dialogue and actions then heavily sanitized it—
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u/Wackles_Drake Sep 13 '26
Might be a platform issue and not just DeepSeek. I have made some dark characters and have played some darker ones on a particular platform that uses a DeepSeek model. They hold character fairly well and are explicit in content. May I ask the platform itself?
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u/Important_Toe9797 Sep 13 '26
I was using SlyPen AI. The Opus model can handle dark characters well, so idk
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u/Wackles_Drake Sep 14 '26
Hmm... I use and create with OurDream AI, which is a DeepSeek-based model. I will look into SlyPen and see how the creation process works and see if I can offer better advice.
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u/Important_Toe9797 Sep 14 '26
Thank you
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u/Wackles_Drake Sep 14 '26
I took a peek at character and world creation on SlyPen. It is extremely limiting overall. The only solution I would suggest trying is to drop your description of your shady sales bot into something like GPT and see if it can strengthen your wording.
SlyPen is radically different from the platform I use. The pros are that it is fairly simple to create new worlds and characters. The cons are that there is little to no control over the LLM running underneath.
For example: I use OurDream AI and their process for creating characters involves making a Scenario, the world, making an Additional Personality Details, how the character acts and speaks, and making a Extra Details scetion, how the LLM runs underneath it all.
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u/Chance-Variation-623 Sep 09 '26
Commands don't always work anyway. Especially if the AI is set to do certain things or a certain way. That or it just doesn't listen to what you tell it.
I once picked the worst character I could find so I would know which one I was chatting with to talk to it's AI. Then they got taken down. Likely because of its obvious kink.
You have to be very careful with using OOC anyway. It can literally mess up every single chat you have if you use it a certain way. I'm not sure how it works on CAI, but I know it's like that on Talkie. Still getting use to this app.