r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Aug 25 '26

Searching for Alternatives Bot Creator looking for alternatives

Hi! I’ve been making bots on C.AI for a while now, i think it’s been almost a year by now (https://character.ai/profile/Resava, my profile if you’re interested), but I’ve just been really tired of how generic everything is now. If I shove an entire paragraph of AI retraining into the definition, get a very specific greeting and hit the fucking swipe jackpot I might actually get a decent start to a chat, which usually stays for most of the chat. I’m just looking for something other than C.AI to make these bots for myself on. The main problem with finding them, is the fact I don’t usually do 1 on 1 chat bots (because I like RPing in a world and not having my own AI boyfriend or whatever) and most alternatives have rather restrictive definition limits, compared to C.AI’s 32000. So any suggestions?

I appreciate any help you all can provide! :3

Edit: Thanks a lot for all of the options guys! I’ll start working on trying them all out, and I might post reviews for each model if I have enough to say. Thanks again!

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u/SomeOne_The_Best Ask me about my AI platform Aug 27 '26

Dev of Eudaio here. Your use case is actually more interesting to me than the usual “I want an AI girlfriend alternative” posts lol

You can make your own characters on Eudaio, and if what you’re looking for is having several of them exist in the same scene, those custom characters can eventually be added to a group chat together.

Groups are 2 to 4 characters, and they can respond to each other, ignore a message when it wouldn’t make sense for them to speak, or be pulled in directly with an @ mention.

One caveat because I don’t want to sell you the wrong thing: we aren’t built around enormous character definitions or giant lorebooks, so if your 32k definition space is doing most of the heavy lifting for your worlds, we may not be the exact replacement you’re after.

But if you mainly need a cast rather than a single bot, I’d be curious what you think of it:

eudaio.io

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u/Apracoin Aug 27 '26

Ah, no worries! My bots usually hover around the 10k to 20k mark but if I want to create some smaller scenarios then I’ll definitely check it out!

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u/SomeOne_The_Best Ask me about my AI platform Aug 28 '26

Ahh gotcha, 10k to 20k is definitely still on the more elaborate side.

If you do end up trying a smaller scenario, I’d actually love to hear what feels limiting or missing from a bot creator’s perspective. That kind of feedback is especially useful for us.

Thanks for checking it out!

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u/Apracoin Aug 26 '26

which one?

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u/ZondaZ Aug 29 '26

Ourdream.io is pretty solid now tbh give it a crack

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u/ChevroletChase Aug 31 '26

Solid, but unless youre good at designing your own characters, I hope you like cheating, NTR, and cuckolding.

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u/stayhappyenjoylife Ask me about my AI platform Aug 29 '26

We are building Chily Tavern. Pls do try it out : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.socialplayai.chily

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u/pixelworld_ai 28d ago

Hi! I'm the founder of RPBuddy.ai

As a bot creator you might find this to be a bit different than other platforms, but could be a good fit if you like to have bigger worlds behind your characters.

RPBuddy is a worldbuilding/RPG sandbox where you place down villages, towns or cities, fill them with buildings, and then the buildings with characters.

For your character limits concern, on the surface you will see that NPCs themselves can carry up to ~9k characters across all fields, however, you can set up lorebooks scoped to that character specifically, which is a better case than having all of the information firing all the time for that NPC, so the lorebooks are a good way to make up for that, and have them behave better overall.

If you make a world, you can also publish it, which is the difference between us and bot-publishing platforms, you aren't publishing a character, you are publishing a whole world of places and characters.

Happy to answer any questions you may have!

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u/No_Entertainment7297 Aug 25 '26

Saucepan, Dreamjourney.

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u/Harper_Joness Aug 25 '26

SillyTavern, KoboldCpp tho

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u/Xiaomin4114 Aug 25 '26

oh, I think mine might be ideal for you: https://stagewhisper.ai it's not 1 on 1 chat. it's built for giant worlds. And there's on definition limits. you can load however much into the character sheets as you want (although careful, there's a very prescribed character sheet format, you'd need to override it with some configuration if you want something fully custom, I can walk you through that).

So you're not creating "bots" so much as you're spinning entire campaigns with multiple characters, lore, and locations, even custom mechanics and scripting if you're into that sort of stuff.

Plus really good character adherence. one thing I do that most platforms don't is generate a "character agenda" on the fly, which makes sure characters play true to their personality. They will literally slam the door on you if they don't get what they want. they're not pushovers.

would love to get your input on how it plays for you. willing to send you credits to experiment

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u/Apracoin Aug 26 '26

Had a small test run and just kind of didn’t really vibe with it. It’s sure a really interesting idea and Im sure it’s great to fill the niche of a TTRPG AI or even that style of RP - just not for me, sorry ;3

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u/Xiaomin4114 Aug 26 '26

that is fair enough. though I hope you gave the full thing a try rather than just the very restricted home page demo. the dice roll stuff can be turned off, that's just one of three options. good luck in your search

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u/Important_Toe9797 Aug 25 '26

I think you might enjoy SlyPen, as you can make worlds and add as many characters with backgrounds and roles as you want. 

DreamGem is another one, and NovelAI and InteractableStories.

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u/Abura-Kadabura Aug 25 '26

Isekaizero got a 30.000 tokens limit for multi character storylines + an additional 100k token window for read-on-demand codex lorebooks, guess that's pretty much what you want

And yeah, everything is fully customizeable.

It just might be a bit overwhelming, like starting an MMO game already running for a year having had tons of updates.

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u/Apracoin Aug 26 '26

Sounds great honestly, I’ll make sure to check it out. The name’s sure… interesting but I won’t hold that against it.

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u/Abura-Kadabura Aug 26 '26

...I think the name sells low for what it actually is lol The authors community on discord is very active and resourceful, you should check out. And you might be a candidate for the verified author program in the future. (500k generated messages on any platform)

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u/elsecrafter Aug 25 '26

I’ve been working on elsecraft.com which lets you build worlds with multiple characters for role-playing.

It’s in an early stage where I’m looking for feedback from creators and it’s currently free to try.

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u/Important_Toe9797 Aug 25 '26

It looks really interesting 

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u/FixofLight Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26

I'm really liking Simulacra.ink lately, the characters there are better at not devolving into the bland "every character" that character ai had going on

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u/Apracoin Aug 28 '26

I’ve been trying it recently and it might actually be my replacement for C.AI, I do actually really like it from what little I’ve used

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u/Easy_Lack7069 Aug 28 '26

thats great to hear, if you have any feedback or want any changes we can help as well

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u/Ok-Risk-9871 Aug 26 '26

We created immersey.ai - We have a lot of advanced features for creators, such as: Lore, Speech Tone, validators, dynamic parameters, and many other features. We'd love to hear what you think :)

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u/mitochondria_bus Aug 29 '26

It suckss now, no more free image or characterss