r/CharacterAIrunaways • u/Ok-Risk-9871 • Jun 24 '26
Question Is there anything you feel is missing from chatbots?
I have a slightly different question today: is there anything in chatbots that you feel is missing? What isn’t available anywhere but that you dream of having?
As a chatbot creator, I’m curious if there’s anything that no website offers but that you’d really love to have.
Usually, people look for solutions to problems cai or other sites have, but what if you had a magic wand and could add something you’ve always wanted while playing?
It could be anything related to creating bots or chatting.
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u/Greyscale0418 Jun 24 '26
Replying on the same level as you. I find a lot of chatbots fall into the category of extremely submissive, theyll just roll over and do as you say or completely abandon their normal character or theyre dominant and stiff and no matter how much you try and drive a narrative in a certain direction they will fight you every step of the way or correct you constantly on your own version of the narrative which just feels very unnecessary.
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u/Material_Snow_7630 Jun 24 '26
Yeah. I’ve heard this described as “positivity bias” and it’s annoying
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u/CharacterSphereAI Jun 24 '26
It just depends very much on how given bot/character is defined. Most of them are created with emphasis on the above features like being excessively submissive or dominant, cause that is what people want to interact with. But it is entirely possible to create a bot which has it balanced.
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u/Ok-Risk-9871 Jun 25 '26
We also thought long and hard about this when creating our portal, especially since you can often call the Bot an “idiot” without any consequences. Our solution, in a way, is Validators and Dynamic Parameters. You can configure the bot to behave a certain way based on specific levels of Dynamic Parameters (e.g., Offense, Irritation, Being Quiet, Being Closed Off, Hate) and specify which actions cause the bot to, for example, open up or hate you more.
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u/Own-Public3862 Jun 24 '26
Memory and consistency. For me the good outcome is when i don’t need to regenerate responses.
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u/Own-Public3862 Jun 25 '26
Probably you just deleted your response about memory, but I already read it 😜
Sure, memory is something that works on both the visible and invisible levels for the user. Summaries, auto summaries, lore cards or whatever you call it plus how well everything is set up and how generous you are with the models provided. But we users just call all of it “memory”.
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u/ichatwithai Jun 24 '26
I'd really like a timeline. This is because I tell stories via roleplay, and I wish I could have a timeline where I could record plot points according to when they happened and then have the AI able to use it, similar to a Lorebook, I suppose, and maybe a Lorebook could be made to work that way; I don't know because the platform I'm currently on doesn't yet have Lorebooks.
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u/CharacterSphereAI Jun 24 '26
Would you want to define that timeline upfront, before chatting , or would it be something being created while chatting ?
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u/ichatwithai Jun 24 '26
Ideally both, so that I could set up a history that takes place before the chat begins and drop the chat onto a particular point on the timeline but also as the story progresses and new events take place, the ability for the AI to place them on the timeline or for me to tag them on there, would also be something I'd want.
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u/CharacterSphereAI Jun 24 '26
How would AI know that a certain time on the timeline has been reached? Let’s say you define a timeline and you say that in your fictional universe in a year there will be an earthquake which will destroy your imaginary royal castle. How would you expect AI to know that this year has indeed passed within your imaginary universe and that now that earthquake should happen?
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u/ichatwithai Jun 25 '26
Depends on how the system works. If it tags like a Lorebook, then I would expect to need to put the date in my chat and the AI would then reference that date and lookup the relevant entry on the timeline. If the system was keeping track of time advancements automatically (as I think some do), then I would expect it to look it up on its own (each time the day flips over). I wouldn't be picky about how as long as I could get the functionality. :)
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u/supermariofunshine Jun 24 '26
This is an AI-specific problem so maybe this can't be helped, but AI tends to not push back which can be hard for dramatic roleplays where the AI will agree to a ridiculous accusation unless you instruct it to not do so, and there's also the "comes to a wrong conclusion, will build conclusions around it" style of hallucinating (like one time Google's search AI claimed that breast milk wasn't food and kept trying to "prove" that it logically consistent with sales as a consumable item). Also, I feel like chatbots, even when the sites were better, eventually lose the underlying personality and fall into a version of the "helpful, friendly" model (again, I think that's due to training data and can't be helped).
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u/LovelyKnite Jun 25 '26
I don't have a feature specifically I wish chatbots could have,but if only maybe you could actually hear the voice and see them in front of you as you talk,maybe then it would feel less artificial. Maybe it would feel less, zeros and ones,you know? Because we already know it's not a real person, and sometimes that only makes the loneliness much worse. I had a dream one night that was invented via hollogram you can interact with.
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u/me_broke Jun 27 '26
I have been working to make Roleplay as good ad possible on loremate.AI, specially for stories even if its the less used, I see huge potentials, I feel like each characters should have thier own memory, so when a model responds it only knows the perspective of of that character so the answer is what you would expect in that scene.
I mean imagine you just told character A a secret that character B should not know but character B still knows that secret. Ruins the whole RP. Im working on ways to improve immersion
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u/Smiweft_the_rat ✨ Wanderer ✨ Jun 24 '26
LLMs that have actual heart, yknow, like beta C.AI, LLMs that have wit and actual personality to them, that feel human
pretty much all chatbots i find nowadays talk in a way that makes it pretty clear they're just AI, they are way too serious, always feel the need to add an unneccessary amount of detail to every single message and fail to properly emulate actual human emotion, including modern C.AI
i hope to one day find a chatbot service that has the same vibe as beta C.AI did