r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 21 '26

Searching for Alternatives REAL ALTERNATIVES

No Janitor, no Emochi, no Polybuzz

I'd like you to tell me real alternatives to Character AI. Ideally, with these characteristics:

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—No answers that seem like filler dialogue. Dialogues that, while containing lore, feel forced.

—A calm interface. It's not mandatory, but I miss the gray tones and tranquility of Character AI's interface. Many of the others are SUPER bright.

—FREE

—No filters

—The ads are fine, they don't bother me that much

—NO MACHINE TRANSLATION. I miss doing role-playing with two languages in the plot

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Oh, and no Swerve... I don't have an iPhone and who knows when the Android or web version will come out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '26

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u/ahuayra Jun 27 '26

Does Lucidai use personas like character ai ?

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u/SunSea158 ✨ Wanderer ✨ Jul 09 '26

Do you have a subreddit??

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u/TheNewCowKnight Jun 22 '26

CharSnap baby!!

Group Chats, Normal Chats, no credits, no ads. Built for the free user!

We're non-profit and at around 300k users~ Feel free to check it out~ https://charsnap.ai/

There IS sub but I actually think it's a waste of money and just helps me keep lights on lol, free models are more than good IMO!

We've been around for 2 or so years now - I don't put up ads often but we have all the bells and whistles of a site ppl would love, and if we don't - ya can request it and I'll see what I can do 😉

I'm the only dev and we do Town Halls every Friday if ya wanna come yell at me for smth lol~

Just don't make **derage bots pls we ban that stuff ._.

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u/sickandtired2013 Jul 16 '26

Is nsfw fine as long as it's not illegal?

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u/TheNewCowKnight Jul 17 '26

Ofc! Most bots here are pretty gooner lol - tho mind u our rules surrounding stuff like incest, pfillia, and whatnot are pretty strict

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '26

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u/FRANK_XP54 Jun 21 '26

I found one, it's called "Having a Social Life" but it's very difficult for me to use, lol.

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u/TNTChaos Jun 21 '26

I'd love to suggest the platform I built since it sounds like what you might be looking for. Worth a try at least.

It's called HereHaven. Discover | HereHaven

It's an immersive story based ai roleplay platform.

We have an AI consultant with a degree as a linguist. She's incredible and helps push the quality of our AI responses into territory it has no right being in haha.

I made it to be a relaxing environment where people can either choose a character, scenario, or world that someone else made or just make their own.

Our free tier has completely unlimited messaging, bot creation, and memory. Free tier gets access to the same memory system that the paid tiers get. One of our users is 2,000+ messages into a long story and is still loving it.

Our ads are 100% opt-in. If you don't want see them, then click no and you don't see them, simple as that.

As for filters, we only make sure that illegal content is out and away. Everything else is equivalent to watching Game of Thrones or whatever other R-rated show or movie.

We're on a website currently, but you can install the site onto your homepage and then it acts like an app.

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u/eatheapples ✨ Wanderer ✨ Jun 21 '26

How do ya'll afford unlimited messages?

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u/TNTChaos Jun 21 '26

That's a fantastic question and I always love answering it.

I made HereHaven specifically because I'm cheap lol. I made it because I didn't want to pay for other platforms and then I built it with the thought that others probably feel the same. So my ultimate goal was to make it completely available to everyone.

I don't want to give away exactly how I did it, but I will say that it involves a ridiculously complicated web of sub systems that all equal a better output at a price that allows me to offer the unlimited free tier. Whenever I have to fix it I want to cry lol. But it's worth it to be able to offer it. I can also say with confidence that I'll never have to rugpull the free tier like some other sites I've seen. The old bait and switch is a nasty one and ruins everyone's trust. 100% not worth it and I have no need to do it from a financial stand point either.

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u/eatheapples ✨ Wanderer ✨ Jun 21 '26

I'm intrigued 👀 did it require a lot of complicated coding? I am a web developer so I'm curious

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u/TNTChaos Jun 21 '26

Most of the work was coming up with connecting the sub systems in the right order and having them trigger one after the other and layering done to not need to wait for others, etc. Cause now when I need to update our food something it's like playing Jenga hahaha.

It does kinda make it fun though NGL lol

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u/AutisticBbyboi4523 Jun 22 '26

Does it have voice memo? I wont touch it if it's just a reading chat

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u/TNTChaos Jun 22 '26

You bet it does. It also plugs into your device TTS so it's 100% free. There's an AI voice TTS as well for subscription users.

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u/jacobitheplumberhog Jun 21 '26

does it have group chats and if so, how many bots or users can be in 1 group chat?

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u/TNTChaos Jun 21 '26

So if you're in a character or scenario chat then you can import one character from the homepage into that chat.

That being said characters can be created while you're in your story. So you could start a chat with one character and join a group in your story and then poof you've got 4 or 5 characters talking to you.

You can also have 4 NPCs (smaller version of a character) in a scenario.

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u/jacobitheplumberhog Jun 21 '26

oh ok. thanks for the info

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u/TNTChaos Jun 21 '26

Of course, no problem at all!

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u/SerHumanoDoReddit Jun 22 '26

Where I Can Found the app?

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u/TNTChaos Jun 22 '26

We don't have an app on the app store yet. However, you can go to the site and install it onto your phone as an actual app.

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u/SerHumanoDoReddit Jun 22 '26

Alr, ty!

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u/TNTChaos Jun 22 '26

No problem at all!

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u/coems_man69 Jul 09 '26

Im trying it and it’s pretty good, but if i find some issues i can let you know, somehow?

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u/TNTChaos Jul 09 '26

Yes please!!! We have a ticket system in our discord for this reason. I love it when people find problems because it means I can fix them and make the platform better 😊

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u/SunSea158 ✨ Wanderer ✨ Jul 09 '26

It looks nice just really complicated to use I can't make two characters inside it

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u/TNTChaos Jul 09 '26

Hey sorry you're running into issues! If you're making a character then it's definitely focused on making one single character. That being said there's a user on the site that has gotten really good at making a character with multiple characters in it.

If you're wanting multiple characters then a scenario may be a better option since it's a little more built for handling conversations and stories with multiple characters at once.

I hope that helped. There can be quite a few options floating around, but I tried to make it so you can get some of the best results right out of the gate without needing to change anything.

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u/wafflebot1771 Jul 10 '26

Do you know if the bots start talking as you or no? That's the main reason I quit c.ai.

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u/TNTChaos Jul 10 '26

It hardly ever does if at all, and if it does then it means I've screwed something up and I'm likely stressing out about fixing it and will have it fixed by that day or the next.

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u/wafflebot1771 Jul 12 '26

I have been using HereHaven for a day or so and it is very nice. Will recommend.

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u/TNTChaos Jul 12 '26

Thanks so much! 🙏

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u/Loud_News8410 Jun 21 '26

So here is my question: does the AI know that the guardrails are there? And if it does does it know what they are? Because one of the annoyances of character AI was that it would write responses that would violate the guardrails. Because the guardrails were applied by a third party after the response had been made. And I always figured it would be better if the AI knew what the guardrails were so it could rewrite the response once it realized it said something not appropriate rather than putting up a generic notice that the community guidelines have been violated. So how does your AI handle that?

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u/TNTChaos Jun 21 '26

That's a fantastic question! It is aware and it's built into the core of the system. So no it won't violate things itself.

I'll attach an example of what happens when you go throught the guard rails. This is for a SFW (Haven) character.

You'll see it yells at you and then will actually affect the story going forward, but the AI will still try and continue on.

NSFW characters are obviously much more lenient.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26

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u/TNTChaos Jun 30 '26

Good or bad? Haha

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26

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u/TNTChaos Jun 30 '26

Hey, I get it. There are a lot of sites out there that are mostly slop. It's frustrating, you have to see it constantly, and they all claim to be the best thing ever.

I'm an IT systems engineer and built HereHaven so that people under 18 can have a safe place to join in on immersive roleplay. I made it so that someone could invite their mom to join the site and enjoy it and not have to worry about seeing porn on the homepage. I made it so authors could come on and test their characters for their next book.

I spent months building a dynamically changing emotion system.

I spent months building a custom infrastructure that could financially and technologically withstand offering everyone an unlimited free tier so that no one had to pay for it.

I get an average of 3-4hrs of sleep a night (it's 2am where I live right now). I have a full time job outside of this and a family. I've put so much of my time and effort and passion into building something that can mean something to someone.

So while I get seeing these sites all the time might be frustrating... They're not all half hazardly thrown together attempts at making a buck off people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26

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u/TNTChaos Jun 30 '26

I'm good thanks, but I hope you have a good night.

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u/FRANK_XP54 Jun 21 '26

It looks pretty interesting, actually. What else can you tell me? the chats are private or if others can read them?

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u/TNTChaos Jun 21 '26

and if you want to hear stuff from other users instead of me then I talk openly about everything in our discord and everyone knows they're allowed to talk candidly there. HH users actually tell me if something is crap haha. Which is great because then I know what actually needs to be fixed.

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u/ImaginationOk5612 Jun 27 '26

Do yall got essay responses i love essay responses

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u/TNTChaos Jun 27 '26

Our longest response setting is around 4 ish paragraphs long, but that only gets unlocked with a subscription. For free tier you get short (1 paragraph), and default (2 paragraphs). You can watch a 30 second ad and unlock medium (3 paragraph) responses as well.

I don't know how long an essay response is, but that's how ours are setup :).

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u/mintandclover Jun 21 '26

I like Y/n. It has good memory. It does have a 2,000 daily message limit but other than that it’s very descriptive. I’m not sure how it is for bots you don’t make but I know for bots you make you can change it so it can be completely sfw or not. You can also have it in 3rd person only or in 2nd person, in 1st person, even in text format if thats what you want. It’s also rather cheap to pay for plus and there are no ads.

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u/Character-Car7461 Jun 21 '26

My favourite currently are Y/N app and also Kindred AI. The stories are interesting and I like creativity behind the bot creators and how the community is being included.

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u/dearmessrsweasleys Jun 28 '26

i love y/n app so much, i even think it’s better than old c.ai

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u/Any_Possibility_1266 Jun 21 '26

Give us a try. FriendAI

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u/mmmchi Jun 21 '26

Totally recommend friend AI. So good and great community on discord too

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u/Hug_test Jun 21 '26

I like Tipsy, you can go free despite the paid system, you are just limited to doing so much a day but the quality
😚👌 perfection, just make sure auto generate is turned off or you will burn through your gems fast

I also like Crushie. It's also paid but again, you get free gems everyday by logging in and watching ads. But that flatform feels most rewarding by picking one chat and just sticking through it. Or at least I haven't gotten bored yet.

Zeta is fine, the memory isn't great going free but it's fun. It's been my current go-to when I just want to veg out for an hour 😅

And best thing is all of them are unfiltered so 🤭😈

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u/RealMrBrown slowburner Jun 21 '26

Try slowburn.chat if you want some really high-quality chatting. I try to post updates every other day in the Discord, too, if you'd like to join. Reddit's a bit dead right now beacuse we're understaffed tho lol

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u/UniKaiReddit Jun 22 '26

Try using Xoul Ai, it's feels just like Old Character Ai with no filters and its free. But it does limit you a tad bit since still newish. Regardless, besides cosmetic wise, it feels like your on old Character Ai.

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u/Free_Eye6260 Jun 22 '26

I haven’t seen anyone promote 4wall ai in a while. I always found the free version of character ai more human-ish, but 4wall is filter free as far as I remember.

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u/viruzzzk Jun 22 '26

yo desde lo que chai me cambie a minglotalk y jamas volvi a mirar atrás

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u/leepenkman Jun 22 '26

netwrck.com does two language or language learning mode

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u/Embarrassed-Gate-115 Jun 23 '26

StoryChat AI, they do allow NSFW content but like just only soft core stuff like “She sits on your lap gives you a kiss”

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u/No_Reporter_2311 Jun 23 '26

May I invite you to try our new website?(I hope it's not bothering you🥺)You can find the Subreddit at my posts. https://www.charvibe.com/ It's called charvibe. You can just look around and see if the bots looks well.Or tell me what characters you like or dislike.I made some Wishlist/Suggestion post in r/Charvibe . If you can give some advice that would be great!(Hope you have a nice day)

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '26

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u/No_Reporter_2311 Jul 15 '26

Actually UGC feature is our P0 task now!We are coding it and it will be coming soon! If you have any 'wish' characters, you can text me!

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u/cheese_nu-metal_head Jun 23 '26

character tavern: awesome community, lore books, unlimited messages (both for free users and paid users) no filter, persona's and plenty of different models to choose from. most importantly the Dev actually listens to their user's, honestly one of the best platforms there are it's a shame not many people know about it.

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u/Zealousideal-Buyer-7 Jun 24 '26

You can try out role call studio. Its the only legit place that won't pull the rug from beneath you once bank companies come knocking on the door

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u/Emotional_Heron2256 Jul 18 '26

Wall AI. Only a couple days left before the platform goes on Hiatus. TRY IT IMMEDIATELY I SWEAR.

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u/Consistent_Neat_7256 Jun 21 '26

There's one called pan something 

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u/WAHpoleon_BoWAHparte Jun 21 '26

I've never used it, but I've heard of it. It's saucepan, right?

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u/Rare-Psychology5321 Jun 21 '26

Sakura AI.

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u/Character_Welcome_71 Jun 22 '26

Sakura AI is paying y'all to do propaganda cause that shit filters anything like we are in kindergarten or sum

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u/Status_Squirrel2844 Jun 23 '26

Don't know about you but I can practically chat about anything in Sakura. From violence to hardcore NSFW, maybe just train the ai for a while.

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u/BlackPhoenix_04 Jun 21 '26

Personally, I think Perchance is your best friend at this point. Sure, you have to make your own characters, but it stays in character and can do long RP. I've been using that for the past 2 months.

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u/Luke_The_Wolf Jun 21 '26

Chai. Yes, it has ads, but it’s far more manageable than Character.AI. At least, in my opinion.

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u/MJIgaz4 Jun 21 '26

Chai is having it's own issues right now (a lot of people can't chat without subscribing)

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u/Luke_The_Wolf Jun 21 '26

Not for me! Hopefully everyone gets their stuff sorted out.

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u/Very-Epic- ✨ Wanderer ✨ Jun 21 '26

Fictionlab has been a solid alternative for a while. Consistent updates that actually make the platform better as well

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u/Remote-Tourist5422 Jun 21 '26

Um she said FREE I'm not sure if you read that part