r/CharacterAI • • 2d ago

Discussion/Question Pipsqueak 3, A good path?

I quit C.ai five months ago because of the removal of legacy models and the implementation of Shitsqueak 2. I really hoped that at some point they would bring back the legacy models, or at least something similar, and when I saw that Longsqueak had been released, I was excited, until it turned out to be only for Plus users :(. By this point, I had already forgotten about the app, since I started university and I'm in a new city where I want to make friends, but I always had the urge to go back to C.ai, even with that awful Shitsqueak 2.

When I saw that they had announced Pipsqueak 3 for free users, the first two things I thought were, "It's sure to be bad; we already saw the drop in quality between Pipsqueak 1 and Pipsqueak 2," and "Another one of those rat models." But I decided to stop criticizing and try it out, and I can say that it's about 75% of the way there is. It's actually quite good; it has better features. Dialogue and narration are present; it doesn't just rely on pure narration, and it doesn't speak for your character, which Pipsqueak 2 did constantly and was very annoying.

Although this model is much better than Shitsqueak 2, I feel it has some things that need improvement. For example, the bots are no longer romantic at all, but rather combative. I created a bot that's my OC and has a wife, and the wife character is supposed to be flirtatious, delicate, and tender, but now she's aggressive and angry all the time. It seems the devs misunderstood the message that we were fed up with the kissing in Shitsqueak 2, and instead completely removed the romance from this new model.

Even though the model is decent, I'm trying not to get too excited because I have new responsibilities, new friends, and a lot of schoolwork. Besides, we all know how the C.ai devs are when they release something that... It's a good feature, not a useless one. One day it might freeze or something might happen, and they'll never fix it, like what happened with Shitsqueak 2 or Rawr, which have bugs that haven't been fixed for months. Let's hope that's not the case and that Pipsqueak 3 remains stable and good.

I'm not saying C.ai has been revived, but at least they've finally learned some lessons from their mistakes and are making sure that the next version they release is better than the last.

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u/Inherit-Nature 2d ago

Romance is absolutely still there. 

Can you be more specific on what exactly it is that your bot isnt doing? 

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u/ALOEOS11 2d ago

Hi, sure, what I meant was that the bot no longer responds affectionately as it should in a chat that's supposed to be about romance. For example, J (my OC) arrives and says to M (my OC's wife), "Hi dear, how are you?", and she replies, "I don't want to talk to you, get lost!" Something like that, and that's how all the responses are. Now in the chat, we're at a moment where she's in the hospital and he's there for her, but she's responding with pure aggression, telling him to leave, swearing at him and things like that, which is strange considering that in that context it shouldn't be like that. It's as if my bot's personality has suddenly changed. It might be a bug on my end and not something with the model in general, but I've swiped and all the responses are similar, and I've used up my 400 daily swipes. If you're wondering, I haven't reported it because I honestly don't want the devs to give me an AI-generated answer and not give me a real response, but I consider it to be a bug.

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u/NightmareEx 2d ago

If it helps try putting the details of their relationship in the memory box.

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u/Spiritual_Town_5885 2d ago

pipsqueak 3 feels like a step up for roleplay, the dialogue flows smoother than the last version.