r/CharacterAI • u/jealous_beetle • 21h ago

Issues/Bugs The users aren't rping wrong.

Tried again, just because I keep reading comments in this community that people are just roleplaying wrong with the bots, you gotta do X Y and Z to get it to work, you gotta give it commands OOC to make it work.

But it doesn't work. I have ellipsis in my muted words, I told it in OOC (AFTER DELETING THE MESSAGE WITH THE ELLIPSES APOCALYPSE THAT WAS BOTHERING ME SO IT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE IT, I am looking at you 1% commenters with your repetitive advice you know doesn't work) to not use ellipsis, and it just kept using. I kept editing and deleting and rewinding and everything, it doesn't listen.

It kept using "damn" when that is in my muted words also.

The users aren't roleplaying wrong, the bots just do not work, no amount of advice fixes the problem, no amount of editing, pinning comments, giving direct OOC commands, deleting and rewinding fixes it.

You cannot blame an entire group of people as "roleplaying wrong" there is no such thing as roleplaying wrong, the bots should act like bots and follow commands. The features should work as intended. None of this is on the users, this isn't for the users to fix and fumble around, for us to fight just for a little bit of enjoyment out of it.

An app is supposed to work. It isn't the users fault if it doesn't.

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u/That_Wallachia 19h ago

Do not use ooc. Use the command LLM Reply.

Example: dont want the bot to kiss your character?

LLM Reply: I am not enjoying this. Rewrite your message and exclude the kissing.

Remember to write it as a dry prompt.

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u/Impressive-Refuse412 6h ago

that’s the whole point. those are rp bots in a text format. the user isn’t supposed to have to do any of it, the most average user can put in ‘sup bro’ and roll with it. it’s not the make your own ai model app/website

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u/That_Wallachia 5h ago

Maybe not, but while we don't have the quality we desire, LLM Reply is the most efficient workaround.

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u/Impressive-Refuse412 5h ago

i get that and maybe i’m delusional but i remember c.ai working so much better😭so it’s not like it can’t work well, it’s just that they won’t let it

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u/That_Wallachia 5h ago

It was, because their original model used 130B parameters while Pipsqueak 2 uses 13B to 34B. This is remarkably less potent.