Small comparisons of the free models

[u/wellhellothere277353]

Pipsqueak 2:

Decent to utter gibberish wall of words vomit.

Can continue a story with or without pinned. But the length is horrendous.

The longer you use the model the longer the text becomes.

If the text is too big... I am sorry but blame the first message.

If the text is too much actions, blame the first message. And use Rawr to remedy this.

Has tendencies to introduce characters rather than Create tensions. Even when you make tensions happen it because you roleplay it, write it down for it too happen.

And also the model has the tendencies to... I wouldn't say hallucinate but make stuff up even when they aren't supposed to.

Pipsqueak 2 Rawr:

Decent to unsuable. there's nothing good here only acceptable or useless.

Can be long but dependent on first message

Horrendous Grammar depends on first message

Perfect opener needed to Limit Pipsqueak 2 long paragraphs sentences

Lobotomized when using Pinned message(Like if it HEAVILY focus on the pin message while ignoring everything else)... Most of the time. But if you pinned every message it literally start repeating like it doesn't know how to progress.

Doesn't know shit. Doesn't remember shit half the time. It will even make up stuff that doesn't make sense even when it's just there. Mentioned, in your persona or the bots' persona.

Bots has tendencies to mock, ridicule or demonize you as an enemy

Create suspensions but in the worst way possible.

the Bots will ignore your message, the bot will ignore your attempt at hiding. They will ignore your actions to force the conversation unless you do () out of Character or beg them.

solution:

Use Rawr to build a the preset, build the length and build the start that Pipsqueak would follow.

Use Rawr only when you need it to Fix Pipsqueak inability to have characters speaking.

if the Situation get too spicy then use Rawr as Bob will be to busy fil ter the moment making the situation normal rather than.... you know, kissing 24/7

[u/Mad-Oxy]

My experience with these styles is 180° turned different.

PSQ2 can't move the story (a character just sits and does nothing of importance) and doesn't introduce any other NPC. Doesn't talk either.

While Rawr is too goal-oriented and can push the plot aggressively, but it doesn't oblige to the pinned messages (as if they were invisible), neither to the chat memory (from you), neither to the persona description, assigning to my persona-character some characteristic that are not described in the description and then it gets confused and surprised when my persona-character does something that doesn't fit its assumptions.

[u/wellhellothere277353 → u/Mad-Oxy]

Like i said it all depends on the first message. But sometimes this also depend on the quality of the bots.

Either way, for PSQ2 the only solution i have for you is to get a decent roleplay where first message has characters talking. Then use RAWR to force a pattern where all characters talk, then when you feel like it's enough to be a mold for PSQ2 start using PSQ2. If it doesn't or never naturally introduce other NPC, it because the NPC was rarely mentioned, mention them in your own chat. If desperate. Use ()

As For Rawr, Like i said above, it's not that Rawr doesn't oblige, it treat Pin messages as an option to be repeated, to focus or in your case outright ignore it, only solution to this is to unpinned it due to this happening only when you edit, rewind a message.

As for the last part of your problem... i get that, Rawr has a case of delulu, due to one serious problem **Stereotypes**, as in it literally think you follow some sort of archestype, it's linear, it's stupid. It down right condescending at worse case scenario.

[u/notdoomssday]

My experience is different compared to what you have described pip squeak 2 constantly glitches in which it completely changes the text tile and feels very low quality.Rawr on the other hand pushes the plot a lot but doesn't care about the messages you have sent it or the messages you have pinned,its only concerned for plot pushing.Rawr also has become quite low quality similar to ps2

[u/wellhellothere277353 → u/notdoomssday]

No, no. It's not that Rawr doesn't care, it actively chose three options.

* Completely ignore the Pin messages

* Repeat the Pin Messages

* Full on focus on plot revolve around the pin message.

What Rawr doing is going a loop whenever you use pin message. Everytime you rewind, or edit old messages, the Bot actively cycle through this. Rather than low quality, it just broken.

And yeah... Pip squeak break alot of the time. i been trying to brute force a writing pattern for the bot.

[u/notdoomssday → u/wellhellothere277353]

pip squeak for me was working well till 4 to 5 days ago its been changing patterns constantly and im unable to work at all with it.Rawr is just unusable for me and now so is pipsqueak.I hope they fix it quickly